Whitby. No more

[landrovereditor]

The link below gives access to the council meeting prohibiting overnight parking in Whitby car parks.



https://democracy.scarborough.gov.uk/documents/s81310/1876 Car Parking Orders - Whitby.pdf

 

[Pauljenny]

That's good news.
We won't have to go there and spend our money with them, ever again.
Maybe an official thankyou is in order?

 

[GeoffL]

This change is allegedly in accordance with the council Corporate Priorities, specifically Aim 2: Prosperous and Aim 3: Inclusive and Vibrant. I'm scratching my head about this as the banning of overnighting removes the chance of revenue from motorhomers who would otherwise spend at local establishment (i.e. seems contrary to Aim 2); and excludes a significant section of UK community (i.e. seems contrary to Aim 3). It's not like hotels or B&Bs will benefit because motorhomers won't use their services; they'll choose to spend their time and money elsewhere...

 

[jagmanx]

We only go near to visit friends

There are a few good places outside to overnight.
So Whitby itself oh no !
Outside maybe.

 

[Obanboy666]

The link below gives access to the council meeting prohibiting overnight parking in Whitby car parks.



https://democracy.scarborough.gov.uk/documents/s81310/1876 Car Parking Orders - Whitby.pdf

Nothing new, I got more or less the same info when I contacted Whitby & Scarborough 18 months ago after numerous members mentioned overnighting in the carpark behind the co op.
I just park up on the Moors and travel into Whitby early the next morning. Why park up in a carpark in town when you can park up in a scenic quiet location.

 

[jacquigem]

This change is allegedly in accordance with the council Corporate Priorities, specifically Aim 2: Prosperous and Aim 3: Inclusive and Vibrant. I'm scratching my head about this as the banning of overnighting removes the chance of revenue from motorhomers who would otherwise spend at local establishment (i.e. seems contrary to Aim 2); and excludes a significant section of UK community (i.e. seems contrary to Aim 3). It's not like hotels or B&Bs will benefit because motorhomers won't use their services; they'll choose to spend their time and money elsewhere...

Yes the negativity is quite striking . Maybe one day we will see a post that says something like - in order to promote this income stream the council are providing motorhome facilitities here at a suitable price ......... but i wont hold my breath

 

[mistericeman]

Yes the negativity is quite striking . Maybe one day we will see a post that says something like - in order to promote this income stream the council are providing motorhome facilitities here at a suitable price ......... but i wont hold my breath

Shortly followed by 3 pages of folks complaining its too expensive....

 

[Floridaphill]

This change is allegedly in accordance with the council Corporate Priorities, specifically Aim 2: Prosperous and Aim 3: Inclusive and Vibrant. I'm scratching my head about this as the banning of overnighting removes the chance of revenue from motorhomers who would otherwise spend at local establishment (i.e. seems contrary to Aim 2); and excludes a significant section of UK community (i.e. seems contrary to Aim 3). It's not like hotels or B&Bs will benefit because motorhomers won't use their services; they'll choose to spend their time and money elsewhere...

Theres another way to view that, we live in a tourist area in the west coast.
A motorhome often has, from my observation of 100's passing through our town, no more than two people on board.

Cars, people carriers or mini buses could have 5+ people and with no cook facilities in the vehicle would be much more likely to buy food, drinks and accommodation adding to the towns economy.

I have seen a number of discussions where folk want a carpark place overnight for as close to free as possible, so why would I think they'd not stock the van fridge and eat the van, maybe just go out for a drink in town ?
Our local supermarket carpark always had a good number of motorhomes, I wonder how many actually spend time buying things in town apart form fuel and food ?
I would be interested too see the data for where the moneys spent by motorhome owners if it exists ?

The issue of noise, waste etc from the minority and the visual impact of sheer numbers of large, often white motorhomes on the sea front or in one place is always going to upset some locals and businesses.
The views and interests of locals need to be satisfied with action from the local councillors who vote for them so why should be surprised !

Parking for motorhomes needs to carefully considered to avoid visual impact in my view.

We don't tend to stay in towns preferring the wild places or farm type campsites as we are fine off grid in our sliver micro camper, its more for economy rather than intended as stealth !

On the one weekend a year we do stay in a town, we buy our food at the festival all except breakfast.

 

[Deleted member 34243]

As I have mentioned previously the attendants at Whitby marina back have always let campers stay overnight and even point out the best places to park to avoid paying for two spots. Unfortunately just recently the car park has been absolutely stuffed with vans that are not so much parked as abandoned. A number of issues where cars have not been able to leave the car park for vans parked with their arses blocking the lanes. The marina front park is clearly marked marina (paying) users only. Completely blocked preventing legitimate users from accessing their boats.
There are a number of ‘sensible / considerate’ places to overnight but user laziness / selfishness has led to these proposals. Only ourselves to blame.
Proper wild campers will find places to stay in Whitby.

 

[RichardHelen262]

Theres another way to view that, we live in a tourist area in the west coast.
A motorhome often has, from my observation of 100's passing through our town, no more than two people on board.

Cars, people carriers or mini buses could have 5+ people and with no cook facilities in the vehicle would be much more likely to buy food, drinks and accommodation adding to the towns economy.

I have seen a number of discussions where folk want a carpark place overnight for as close to free as possible, so why would I think they'd not stock the van fridge and eat the van, maybe just go out for a drink in town ?
Our local supermarket carpark always had a good number of motorhomes, I wonder how many actually spend time buying things in town apart form fuel and food ?
I would be interested too see the data for where the moneys spent by motorhome owners if it exists ?

The issue of noise, waste etc from the minority and the visual impact of sheer numbers of large, often white motorhomes on the sea front or in one place is always going to upset some locals and businesses.
The views and interests of locals need to be satisfied with action from the local councillors who vote for them so why should be surprised !

Parking for motorhomes needs to carefully considered to avoid visual impact in my view.

We don't tend to stay in towns preferring the wild places or farm type campsites as we are fine off grid in our sliver micro camper, its more for economy rather than intended as stealth !

On the one weekend a year we do stay in a town, we buy our food at the festival all except breakfast.

If motorhomes are so bad for the economy of a town then explain why France goes out of its way to encourage motorhomes to its towns and villages,
By providing places and facilities to stop, often for free, and when there is a charge it is often only a few euros

 

[Channa]

If motorhomes are so bad for the economy of a town then explain why France goes out of its way to encourage motorhomes to its towns and villages,
By providing places and facilities to stop, often for free, and when there is a charge it is often only a few euros

Simple it was seen as an answer to a congestion problem if you trace the origins.

Re enhanced economies plenty of evidence here that people relish camping and spending as little as possible ,,,so it follows diddly squat paid in an area defeats some objective perhaps the motto should be to use the word "free" it seems a mantra to a lot ( stock up at Aldi a penny more expensive local)

Jeffmossy has organised another meet at Wills o nats I know it well ...I guarantee there will be people not visit the pub have a drink before we start on food !, On the cheap and a lot of the time freeloading.

Another thread deep pockets and short hands at Applewood ...If this is wildcamping I dis associate and you can stuff it ....by a long chalk not my definition nor the original idea of the site

Channa

 

[RichardHelen262]

We nearly always spend money at a stopover in France so always add a little to the local economy, and the last time we went to Whitby we spent over £400 in Whitby and a couple of hundred in Pickering on the way Home, but if they feel my motorhome is too big and ugly to visit their town then that is fine,we will just spend money where we are welcome to visit

 

[antiquesam]

We nearly always spend money at a stopover in France so always add a little to the local economy, and the last time we went to Whitby we spent over £400 in Whitby and a couple of hundred in Pickering on the way Home, but if they feel my motorhome is too big and ugly to visit their town then that is fine,we will just spend money where we are welcome to visit

I fear you are a rare exception.

 

[davep10000]

In the states, virtually all Walmart stores actively encourage RV parking in their car parks - dont think we will see this policy adopted by the likes of Tescos though. (Not that I ever fancy a supermarket car park, but sometimes needs must..).

 

[The laird]

Shame as we love Whitby but so be it we won’t venture there even without the van !

 

[Fazerloz]

If motorhomes are so bad for the economy of a town then explain why France goes out of its way to encourage motorhomes to its towns and villages,
By providing places and facilities to stop, often for free, and when there is a charge it is often only a few euros

I seem to have noticed quite a few French towns/villages closing them, whilst more and more Spanish ones are opening them.

 

[jacquigem]

Yes usually for a small fee which is surely the way to go. I feel true wildcamping takes place outside towns and even villages .

 

[Pauljenny]

Yes usually for a small fee which is surely the way to go. I feel true wildcamping takes place outside towns and even villages .

I agree.
But if a small town or village is prepared to offer dump and fill services, with or without overnight parking... We would be prepared to pay a couple of quid for the privilege.. And maybe spend a little while we're there.
But who REALLY wants or needs to overnight in the middle of any of our coastal resorts, especially at peak times? Shows a lack of imagination.

 

[peter palance]

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The link below gives access to the council meeting prohibiting overnight parking in Whitby car parks.



https://democracy.scarborough.gov.uk/documents/s81310/1876 Car Parking Orders - Whitby.pdf

oh the shops dont want your money then let them shut at the same time let the council stick there heads in the sand ? and do not abuse what we have
i do not leave rubbish and the like but but i have seen some no no may not be us in general but take a look before you leave and then. pj.

 

[yorkieowl]

Simple it was seen as an answer to a congestion problem if you trace the origins.

Re enhanced economies plenty of evidence here that people relish camping and spending as little as possible ,,,so it follows diddly squat paid in an area defeats some objective perhaps the motto should be to use the word "free" it seems a mantra to a lot ( stock up at Aldi a penny more expensive local)

Jeffmossy has organised another meet at Wills o nats I know it well ...I guarantee there will be people not visit the pub have a drink before we start on food !, On the cheap and a lot of the time freeloading.

Another thread deep pockets and short hands at Applewood ...If this is wildcamping I dis associate and you can stuff it ....by a long chalk not my definition nor the original idea of the site

Channa

Don't know how you can comment on the Will o Nats Andy, at the last meet EVERYBODY on the meet used the pub, quite a few of us getting more than a little tipsy, and as for eating in the pub as far as I am aware all except one person (who was unable to eat the meals due to health reasons), had a meal on the Sat night. A good time was had all who attended, we (obviously) spent enough as we are more than welcome back, as proved by the new thread.