Tyres again

hairydog said:
Michelin Agilis Camping tyres are great if you want to pay twice as much and enjoy a harsh ride with almost solid tyres.

Any tyre that is the right size and load rating is easily good enough, though I would advise getting ones marked M+S, especially if you have a FWD motorhome.

I see no advantage in paying more for a "camping" label on the tyres.
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have to agree, my Rapido came with Vanco tyres,.....absolutely hate them, it's like driving with solid rubber tyres.
just had 4 Riken Cargos fitted & balanced..... £331. feels like a normal Sprinter again.
 
What mileage should you expect to get from tyres ? FWD , front tyres
 
Can't seem to find many marked m & s ... the Michelin Agilis (non camping) don't seem to be. Blimey, this is proving difficult but if I'm spending around £400'on tyres it's got to be the right choice! Probably the last ones I'll buy too! :D
 
carol said:
Can't seem to find many marked m & s ... the Michelin Agilis (non camping) don't seem to be. Blimey, this is proving difficult but if I'm spending around £400'on tyres it's got to be the right choice! Probably the last ones I'll buy too! :D
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If you buy from Oponeo they have free delivery but you will have to find somewhere to fit them, if you buy from blackcircles you can pay online to have them fitted and you get a choice of fitting partners local to you, it will be cheaper and easier than driving around for quotes.
The link I posted had all season tyres on it
 
Be aware that the Michelin Agilis Commercial tyre is not M & S rated, only ther Camping variant is.
 
carol said:
Thanks Terry. Another question though ... don't winter tyres have to be changed in summer? Is that why some have half sun/half snow symbol? I thought m and s meant mud and snow?

Thanks everyone, I've learnt so much about tyres this afternoon! :wave:
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Traditionally they were changed, mainly because winter tyres wear faster. Modern winter tyres do last longer, but I don't think they'll do the same mileage as summer tyres, and now there are all season tyres which would be a great option if available in the size you need.

All the old tyre ideas are a bit out of whack at the moment, which means reading reviews is important. My tyres are 3PMSF, so fully winter rated and do 70,000 miles easily, and to complicate things more, they aren't technically a "Winter" tyre. Unheard of even 5 years ago.
 
mark61 said:
Traditionally they were changed, mainly because winter tyres wear faster. Modern winter tyres do last longer, but I don't think they'll do the same mileage as summer tyres, and now there are all season tyres which would be a great option if available in the size you need.

All the old tyre ideas are a bit out of whack at the moment, which means reading reviews is important. My tyres are 3PMSF, so fully winter rated and do 70,000 miles easily, and to complicate things more, they aren't technically a "Winter" tyre. Unheard of even 5 years ago.
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I received this reply from Michelin when asking about the suitability of using winter tyres all year round.
Could be a marketing ploy to encourage customers to buy 2 sets of tyres but I suppose they are the experts.


Good morning Steve,

Thank you for contacting Michelin customer care.

Regarding your query, the MICHELIN AgilisAlpin is a dedicated winter tyre. We do not recommend using this all year around, as the rubber compound will tend to soften in temperatures above 7 degrees celcius, which will compromise the safety, and longevity of your tyres.

Unfortunately we do not produce an all-year tyre in your size. Therefore we can only recommend that you have a dedicated summer/winter tyre for the corresponding season.

In this case, the only options available for your vehicle, with an appropriate load index, are :

Summer --> MICHELIN Agilis51 104/102T
Winter --> MICHELIN Agilis51 SnowIce 104/102T

I hope this was helpful and do not hesitate to contact us again if you have any further queries -we are happy to help!

Kind Regards,

Henrik
MICHELIN Customer Care
Passenger Car & Light Truck Tyres
Tel: 0845 366 1590
E-mail: contact@tc.michelin.eu
Contact us : Michelin contact address, telephone number | Michelin UK
Website : Michelin Car Tyres, winter and summer tyres, 4 season tyres
Tyres from Michelin
 
carol said:
Thanks Terry. Another question though ... don't winter tyres have to be changed in summer? Is that why some have half sun/half snow symbol? I thought m and s meant mud and snow?

Thanks everyone, I've learnt so much about tyres this afternoon! :wave:
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No you don't have to change winter tyres in the summer, Saga Insurance recommend that if you don't have space to store an extra set of wheels and tyres then it is better to use winter tyres all year round, I have had mine on for approximately four years and I still have lots of tread left, after driving in snow with them I would never go back to summer tyres, I had four winter tyres fitted to my car yesterday

What you need to know about winter tyres - Saga

Saga said:
Can winter tyres be used in summer?

Continental Tyres insist that winter tyres are as quiet and comfortable as summer tyres and don’t wear any more quickly.

There is a slight trade off with stopping distances as a winter tyre doesn’t stop as quickly in the dry as a summer tyre, however, on balance if it is not possible to switch tyres in the winter, experts say you are better off with winter tyres all year round. This is because there is a much bigger difference between the stopping distance of summer tyres in the winter than winter tyres in the summer.

If you are reluctant to change tyres and have nowhere to store summer tyres when they are not in use, you are better off using winter tyres all year round.
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Obanboy666 said:
I received this reply from Michelin when asking about the suitability of using winter tyres all year round.
Could be a marketing ploy to encourage customers to buy 2 sets of tyres but I suppose they are the experts.


Good morning Steve,

Thank you for contacting Michelin customer care.

Regarding your query, the MICHELIN AgilisAlpin is a dedicated winter tyre. We do not recommend using this all year around, as the rubber compound will tend to soften in temperatures above 7 degrees celcius, which will compromise the safety, and longevity of your tyres.

Unfortunately we do not produce an all-year tyre in your size. Therefore we can only recommend that you have a dedicated summer/winter tyre for the corresponding season.

In this case, the only options available for your vehicle, with an appropriate load index, are :

Summer --> MICHELIN Agilis51 104/102T
Winter --> MICHELIN Agilis51 SnowIce 104/102T

I hope this was helpful and do not hesitate to contact us again if you have any further queries -we are happy to help!

Kind Regards,

Henrik
MICHELIN Customer Care
Passenger Car & Light Truck Tyres
Tel: 0845 366 1590
E-mail: contact@tc.michelin.eu
Contact us : Michelin contact address, telephone number | Michelin UK
Website : Michelin Car Tyres, winter and summer tyres, 4 season tyres
Tyres from Michelin
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Well, straight from the horses mouth so to speak, so has to be taken into account.
My van came fitted with Vanco winter tyres fitted by manufacturer, gripped very well even on hottest UK days. Never did a winter with them because have a preference for other tyres.
 
Well after finding out that some members use winter tyres all year round with little or no detrimental effect I’m seriously considering going for them in the near future.
Looking through my mileage over the last year I actually did more miles from Oct - March than over spring / summer so should reap the benefits when I’m out and about over the winter months.
 
At my last service before we set off for France we were advised that there was probably 1000 miles left in the tyres before the wear bars, so I explained that the trip was likely to be twice that, so what tyres would he suggest. He said budget every time !!! He is a seasoned motorhomer, so I trust him. It was explained that all tyres have to meet stringent requirements and that most budget tyres are made by subsidiaries of the big names and to the same spec, so as a general rule it seems that we end up paying for 'Badge Engineering' rather than a better product. I realise that there are folks who are brand faithful, but to my mind I'd rather have the money in my pocket than some vast international conglomerations.
 
oppy said:
At my last service before we set off for France we were advised that there was probably 1000 miles left in the tyres before the wear bars, so I explained that the trip was likely to be twice that, so what tyres would he suggest. He said budget every time !!! He is a seasoned motorhomer, so I trust him. It was explained that all tyres have to meet stringent requirements and that most budget tyres are made by subsidiaries of the big names and to the same spec, so as a general rule it seems that we end up paying for 'Badge Engineering' rather than a better product. I realise that there are folks who are brand faithful, but to my mind I'd rather have the money in my pocket than some vast international conglomerations.
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Cheers Oppy, I'm only bothered about safety and performance - trouble is the lesser known brands don't have as many fans or testimonials. I'm in a quandary now! :rolleyes2::rolleyes2:
 
Michelin Agilis

Hi Carol, I bought a new set of tyres from Asda a couple of years ago. They were delivered to and fitted by Halfords in Middleton, Oldham.

It was the best price I could get them for.

Regards, Barry x
 
carol said:
Cheers Oppy, I'm only bothered about safety and performance - trouble is the lesser known brands don't have as many fans or testimonials. I'm in a quandary now! :rolleyes2::rolleyes2:
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Carol,

it's whatever gives you peace of mind.

When your belting down the motorway in the pouring rain during a pitch dark night, what tyres would you like to have fitted ?

And that's how you will decide.

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