wildman
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new laws in France to affect everyone
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Not all that obvious whether driving outside Paris without a sticker is illegal though.
ScamperVan
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Sorry, could Google this but we're away and I don't have unlimited data or wi-fi, but just wondering if the vehicle already had an emissions sticker from another country, whether that would be enough for the French.
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I don't think this new law is aimed exclusively at the UK. I think French cars already have the restrictions and all non French vehicles are now being included. A little paranoia setting in here perhaps.
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I wonder how much pollution came from the making and transportation of all these stickers!
iwm
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Where to get a sticker?
Where might I buy a sticker.
I looked on Ebay and Amazon but nothing obvious.
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IanM
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“Stickers for vehicles registered outside France can be ordered online from 1 February 2017.
“The website, Service de délivrance des certificats qualité de l?air - Ministère de l'Environnement, de l'Energie et de la Mer which will be in various languages, will ask you to enter the necessary information from your vehicle registration certificate and attach a scanned copy of the certificate.”
Cheers
IanM
Where might I buy a sticker.
I looked on Ebay and Amazon but nothing obvious.
Thanks
IanM
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“Stickers for vehicles registered outside France can be ordered online from 1 February 2017.
“The website, Service de délivrance des certificats qualité de l?air - Ministère de l'Environnement, de l'Energie et de la Mer which will be in various languages, will ask you to enter the necessary information from your vehicle registration certificate and attach a scanned copy of the certificate.”
Cheers
IanM
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Pauljenny
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Thanks for that IanM but I expect that most of us will not have a level of French necessary to complete the forms
Just read this bit -
How many of us will be affected by this ?
We never drive into big towns,anywhere.
After ****** we Brits probably won't be allowed to drive our dangerous, non-standard RHD vehicles in the EU, anyway.
We'll all be confined to Blighty and Ireland.
Auld Pharrrt
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Or Oz and Hong Kong I think ...
Keithchesterfield
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It sounds a bit like the Breathalyser Law of a few years ago that the French never imposed - keep your Euros in your pockets until it's certain you need a sticker.
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The Connexion - The Newspaper for English-Speakers in France
Of course, this doesn't apply to just Brits, like the LEZ it applies to everybody. And if you want to go to Paris it cannot be ignored like the breathalyser law, it is in force now.
Of course, this doesn't apply to just Brits, like the LEZ it applies to everybody. And if you want to go to Paris it cannot be ignored like the breathalyser law, it is in force now.
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barge1914
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New laws in France
I just followed the link to the RAC site and from their to the French application form...its all in English.
However, I see now that France, Germany, Austria, and Denmark, even England have, or are in the process of, requiring emissions stickers, and others are muttering about it. There is even an all-EC sticker covering CO2 emissions and allowing specific maximum distances per sticker...Its unclear whether the latter is instead of or additional to individual country stickers. What a mess!.. don't see much evidence of 'harmonisation of standards' in all this!
I already have a green German sticker issued by DEKRA which announces I have a Euro 4 engine. Since we intend to travel throughout Europe in the next few years does it mean we will end up with a jigsaw puzzle of stickers all over the windscreen? Or more sensibly do all EC countries accept the stickers issued by another EC member? Its even more complicated by German proposals to introduce Particle and Fine Dust stickers.
(in a rational EC one would expect each country to issue its own vehicles with a sticker which would be accepted throughout the EC...in the same way driving licenses and Registration Documents are mutually recognised. From our own experience of EC regulations concerning inland waterways and navigation UK Gov makes no effort whatsoever to look after the interests of its own citizens in Europe, with ****** I would imagine UK Gov will be even more inclined to turn its back on the interests of UK travellers in Europe.)
So far I have been unable to find an answer on t'internet and am puzzled as to where to go to find out....Any ideas? Is anyone an RAC member and able to post a question on their website.
Its pretty clear stickers are going to be increasingly required for us itinerants. Certainly as we travelled round Germany we kept tripping over Umwelt signs on bits of highway around, past, or near cities (not just in them) where we didn't expect them despite having tried to find up to date info beforehand. And often they were on dual carriageways where you stood absolutely no chance of turning round or diverting form the route. Consequently we were glad we took the precaution of getting one.
Regards Ian L
I just followed the link to the RAC site and from their to the French application form...its all in English.
However, I see now that France, Germany, Austria, and Denmark, even England have, or are in the process of, requiring emissions stickers, and others are muttering about it. There is even an all-EC sticker covering CO2 emissions and allowing specific maximum distances per sticker...Its unclear whether the latter is instead of or additional to individual country stickers. What a mess!.. don't see much evidence of 'harmonisation of standards' in all this!
I already have a green German sticker issued by DEKRA which announces I have a Euro 4 engine. Since we intend to travel throughout Europe in the next few years does it mean we will end up with a jigsaw puzzle of stickers all over the windscreen? Or more sensibly do all EC countries accept the stickers issued by another EC member? Its even more complicated by German proposals to introduce Particle and Fine Dust stickers.
(in a rational EC one would expect each country to issue its own vehicles with a sticker which would be accepted throughout the EC...in the same way driving licenses and Registration Documents are mutually recognised. From our own experience of EC regulations concerning inland waterways and navigation UK Gov makes no effort whatsoever to look after the interests of its own citizens in Europe, with ****** I would imagine UK Gov will be even more inclined to turn its back on the interests of UK travellers in Europe.)
So far I have been unable to find an answer on t'internet and am puzzled as to where to go to find out....Any ideas? Is anyone an RAC member and able to post a question on their website.
Its pretty clear stickers are going to be increasingly required for us itinerants. Certainly as we travelled round Germany we kept tripping over Umwelt signs on bits of highway around, past, or near cities (not just in them) where we didn't expect them despite having tried to find up to date info beforehand. And often they were on dual carriageways where you stood absolutely no chance of turning round or diverting form the route. Consequently we were glad we took the precaution of getting one.
Regards Ian L
Thanks for that IanM but I expect that most of us will not have a level of French necessary to complete the forms
Just read this bit -
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The Crit'Air site appears to be charging almost 30 euro for the sticker. Strikes me a bit like these sites that want you to pay for something you can do more easily with a bit of effort at a lower cost. The European one they offer only covers CO[SUP]2 [/SUP]it does not cover NOX or particulates, etc.
At present the need only applies to Paris, Lyon and Grenoble but will be extended to another 22 cities in due course. Requirement for Non-French vehicles will be enforced from 31 March 2017 in these areas.
To get a sticker you will have to prove the efficiency of your vehicle with a copy of your log book or other supporting evidence, just as I had to do with the German one.
I intend to wait and see how it develops before getting my sticker!
At present the need only applies to Paris, Lyon and Grenoble but will be extended to another 22 cities in due course. Requirement for Non-French vehicles will be enforced from 31 March 2017 in these areas.
To get a sticker you will have to prove the efficiency of your vehicle with a copy of your log book or other supporting evidence, just as I had to do with the German one.
I intend to wait and see how it develops before getting my sticker!
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You will not be able to drive in ireland from april 1 as all trucks are going to drive on the right,if sucessfull cars are to follow the following april.
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Not how I understand it.
London, no sticker is needed if your vehicle is LEZ compliant. If your vehicle is non LEZ compliant, you will be charged/fined.
Paris, sticker required on LEZ compliant vehicles. If your vehicle is non LEZ compliant, you will be charged/fined.
London, no sticker is needed if your vehicle is LEZ compliant. If your vehicle is non LEZ compliant, you will be charged/fined.
Paris, sticker required on LEZ compliant vehicles. If your vehicle is non LEZ compliant, you will be charged/fined.
Pauljenny
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Penalising non compliant vehicles from the European roads ? Project Fear missed that ,pre referendum... I always thought that they'd missed a trick,there.
It could work both ways,however.
The U.K. could similarly ban LHD commercial traffic, and their boozy,druggy tired, drivers thundering down our highways, while on their phones and computers.
Might reduce the number of illegal immigrants ,as well?
It could work both ways,however.
The U.K. could similarly ban LHD commercial traffic, and their boozy,druggy tired, drivers thundering down our highways, while on their phones and computers.
Might reduce the number of illegal immigrants ,as well?
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F$%k all that for a game o' sojers ... I'm sticking to the Highlands & Islands!
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I also heard that from that date NO right turns will be allowed , you will just have to keep making LEFT turns untill you are where you want to be, I think this is a very good safety idea as many crashes are caused by people making right turns without checking their mirrors and ensuring it is safe to make a turn.:nicethread: