Kelpies car park, Falkirk

I think we should drive around the car park with our greasy grey wastes open. It will make it easier for them to drift, and get them talking to us. Remember when you were a yoof.
 
runnach said:
AP, nowt here about area being developed as a race track. The Helix | Funding The Helix
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I haven't read through all the links but it appears you are right, but I can't see anything mentioning us either.

As I said, I am not on any one side on this subject ... I generally prefer to live and let live. There is often an alternative spot for us to move to if we were desperate enough but is there for them?
 
As I have said before if its that bad and dangerous ring the police its what they are there for. Let them deal with it. The police will get sick of all the phone calls eventually and harass the kids. The kids will stop using it leaving it for the MH. Then the police can come around and knock on the door at 3am and ask if everything is OK. :fun:
 
runnach said:
Correct, AP. Nor are those stopping for the night doing hand brake spins and the likes. If they are as Anne stated, having a blether, showing off their car mods etc, I have no problem with this. Problem is, some will take their bad car park practices, onto public roads and, some of these practices can be catastrophic.
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In my mid 20's I was the first vehicle to stop at a head-on quite close to the location we are talking about. That night three bonnie teenaged girls died in my arms, one survived and the fiancé of the first one to go, who was the driver, also survived. Believe me when I say I know the consequences of people's mistakes, no boy racers just a drunken woman with apparent suicidal tendancies.

Every single year at the first signs of snow and ice I always practice my driving skills on an icy car park ... I'm 63, and still do it. Ok I do it in private but I do it. For every one of these hooligans who act in this manner there will be some who have an accident, there will be some who avoid an accident thanks to their skills. There will be survivors who had the maturity to keep it in the car parks.

Please, stop the hatred and try to consider other sides of every coin..
 
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When I stayed at the Kelpies last summer the boy racers weren't a problem, they kept to the ends/sides of the car park whilst I and a few others were parked in the middle. They didn't do much driving around other than accelerating at high speed for a short distance on their way in and out.

I did worry that after being parked with their headlights shining on the Kelpies for a few hours their batteries might be flat. Don't know why they needed to leave their headlights on anyway as the whole thing is well lit up. Luckily they were able to start up again and all had gone home by midnight.

It's a problem in a lot of places I think. Was saddened yesterday, when walking the dogs, to see that in our village the doughnutters have had a go in the grassy area adjacent to the car park and chewed up the grass worse than a bunch of WCers pulling off a wet field.
 
runnach said:
Correct, AP. Nor are those stopping for the night doing hand brake spins and the likes. If they are as Anne stated, having a blether, showing off their car mods etc, I have no problem with this. Problem is, some will take their bad car park practices, onto public roads and, some of these practices can be catastrophic.
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Better in a car park then.
 
Fazerloz said:
As I have said before if its that bad and dangerous ring the police its what they are there for. Let them deal with it. The police will get sick of all the phone calls eventually and harass the kids. The kids will stop using it leaving it for the MH. Then the police can come around and knock on the door at 3am and ask if everything is OK. :fun:
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And then ban the motorhomers
 
FIGHT!!!!!!!!



You guys need to stop ranting or Phil will have to move the entire thread to you know where. Lol
 
runnach said:
"Hatred" tad strong AP..........no?
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Nothing personal. It wasn't aimed directly at anyone. It was meant in general towards the sum total of the amount of dislike that people, including myself, feel about the subject. I know it's bloody annoying, you're tired, your dogs are going ape-poo etc. you just want a little R&R then all hell breaks loose ...

It's one of those things which will plague forums like ours, probably every forum has their own equivalent ... climbers going up mountains moaning about abseilers going down public buildings etc ...

We just have to learn to live with it.
 
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campervanannie said:
Well I think I might post the Kelpies poi on a dogging forum might as well chuck something else in the mix :dog::dog::dog::mad1::mad1:
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Och ... in the email I read that as "digging" and was gonna say my daughter is into archaeological digs.
 
I can't understand how people who call themselves free spirits can be so intolerant of others.
 
runnach said:
Yes I can, it is called home.

As for using campsites, I have done, often.

Boy racers: so it is "their" car park, why not just let a-holes rule the roads, with a bit luck, they will kill only themselves with their anti social behaviour.
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Didn't suggest letting them "rule the roads" bud just giving an opinion. I Don't like the antisocial behaviour any more than the next man but possibly they may be less dangerous in the car park than out on the roads? I can vaguely remember being young myself back down the road a ways and while I never went out to intimidate or piss off anyone, no doubt it didn't always seem that way to those around me. Surely we've all had our moments down the years, and I for one am glad the "Old people" weren't too hard on me. Give it a few years and these "a-holes" will be respectable family men and could even be running this wonderful country!
Like my old grandpappy always said "youth is wasted on the young"
Have a ball matey, and don't let the b*****ds grind you down!:cool1::drive::cheers::rockroll::camper::have fun:
 
runnach said:
Just finished looking at google maps, the Helix link I posted earlier, mentions use of footie stadium car park as an over flow to main Kelpies CP. Looks promising on streetview, worth remembering and, may be a quieter over night stop to head for?
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There is a smaller carpark before you get to the large one that the young lads don't use and you can still see the Kelpies lit up at night.
 
mistericeman said:
Seriously???

are you ACTUALLY suggesting that we should be more tolerant of a bunch of scroaty no marks driving like idiots???
Hell why not open it up and sling some needles into the mix too...
No doubt we should as a society of folks shooting up in public places too....
Sadly standards AND expectations of decent human behaviour seem to be at an all time low.
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Not suggesting anything matey just giving my opinion. When was the last time you parked overnight in a "No Camping" spot? or maybe parked in a beautiful little hideaway in some idyllic area that was obviously not a designated overnight parking space? We all do it, that's why we're called "Wild Campers" isn't it? I wasn't condoning bad behaviour bud, & just where the reference to needles and "shooting up" came from, I'm not sure. I'm not naïve enough to think their behaviour only happens off road, but maybe these kids use these carparks so they don't need to go killing themselves or anyone else on the roads? And surely calling them all "scroaty no marks" is like calling all members of this forum "campsite avoiding freeloaders" or some such thing? Sure some of the so called good folk in motorhomes never put a foot wrong but others do empty grey water in hedgerows and leave litter in layby's etc. But we keep on keeping on and expect people to not judge us all to be bad don't we??
As for standards being at an all time low, whilst I fully agree with the sentiment, I vividly remember my dear old daddy telling me the exact same thing 30 years ago, while I got yet another roasting for being out till midnight, Riding my "horrible fast noisy motorcycle" like I had just stolen it!:lol-061::idea-007::lol-061:
Does any of this sound familiar to anyone?
We were all young once . Most of us came through it pretty much unscathed (I remember a lot of young souls who didn't... legacy of involvement with aforementioned motorcycles I know!"
Just remember, A lot of what we did all those years ago is not tolerated now in this so called "Lawless society" & I firmly believe that anyone doing half of the things we did in modern society would be locked up toot sweet! so maybe things aren't any worse now than they were back then, but the old folk just get less tolerant?
At least the yoof of today seem to have learned not to drink and drive like we all did, so that alone must make them safer than we ever were! And as for young drivers being rubbish, Have you heard of messrs Button & Hamilton et al?
I rest my case and relinquish the soap box now.
Whilever society practices tolerance, we can all live free and enjoy!
PEACE OUT DUDES & DUDESSES!!:cool1::drive:
 
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