Cooking Oil Fuel

[mid4did]

recyc-oyle

here is the website from the card.
Recyc-oyle
No mention of Bio diesel.From what I can see.Nor any mention of prices for recycled/filtered oil.

 

[Nesting Zombie]

Thank the universe for This Forum & the collective mind of it's members,
It's Brilliant to be able to throw most subjects into a post & get a good cross section of replies that might just save you ££££££s.
Thanks Guys,,,I will stick to Garage bought Diesel me thinks !.

 

[big tom]

Better using vegetable oil from the supermarket and mixing with central heating oil 1 to 6. But only for older vehicles modern engines don’t like it.

 

[harrow]

Virgin oil used to be much cheaper than it is now some guy were at asda just tipping it in the tank.

A mate of mine with a Chrysler Voyager was saying how wonderful bio was until he ended up with a two thousand pound repair bill.

Don't trust everything you read on the internet

 

[mistericeman]

I've run the Tdi (Discovery 200 Tdi engine) in this



on both "Asian hyper market" veg oil AND WVO in the past

Decidedly unimpressed with MPG returns whilst using it quite honestly SO I'll be sticking to Dinodiesel in the future ....in fairness that one returns 30 odd to the gallon anyway ....better than the 11mpg I get from one of the others on petrol lol

 

[Nesting Zombie]

So was the second Pix taken on the way to Shbell island then ?

 

[IanH]

How interesting !
Thanks guys,
He DID say if possible & in an ideal world it's best to let it stand, & treat it as If you was Decanting a Demijohn of Home Made wine.& in Winter or colder temperatures mix with 30% Diesel .

I've got a 1996 Peugeot Boxer 2.5 TD as my Base vehicle, So I guess it should be ok to use !.
The thing Is, I could order 100lt now (as almost completely Dry, & Delivery Friday), then 100lt on my way back from doing my Kent, Eastbourne, Littlehampton ring, then meet up at Peaspottage
(another regular drop he does). Then mess about going West from there for a bit, before heading North again & get another 100lt in say Milton Keynes !. 300lt for £225 giving 2 months (ish) motoring possibly saving £125 ish PLUS giving me a FULL tank with say 60 lt in 3 containers to top up as I head further North, Well THAT'S getting to Scotland sorted !. I can see the attraction, but I suppose it only works if you stay local & have regular supply.

Speaking with my engineer's hat on, I wouldn't put any of this within a 10 mile radius of MY Mh!!!
No possibility of quality control, certainly well outside the fuel spec for your engine. A nightmare to get rid off, not just draining the tank but flushing the entire fuel system etc etc. Could be a high percentage of water in it too, water freezes, as you probably know!
Another way of looking at this...........................how much fuel do you actually use in a year, in a Mh??
Willing to bet you do, as most of us do, circa 5000 miles a yr, at circa 25Mpg = 200galls = 909 ltrs, @ circa 109p/ltr = £990. So where's the real saving?
You quote 300 ltrs for £225, or in my calc above 900 ltrs for £675. £900 - £675 = £225 per year!!!!!!!!!!!! (OR if you do lots of miles, then a "saving" of £225/5000miles)

 

[Nesting Zombie]

Yeah I think that's a good argument,,in the last 11month (As a FULL time livaboard) I've done around the 9k mark and getting around the 25 MPG mark. Plus a fair crew Engine idle hrs. But totally get what you're saying.

 

[mistericeman]

So was the second Pix taken on the way to Shbell island then ?

It was ...it's up a VERY steep narrow lane just before you get into Barmouth itself ....1st gear and low box on the way up AND down ....
cracking views from the top and a loverly walk through an abandoned village that housed some of the workers from the abandoned Manganese mines that track across the Harlech dome

 

[Deleted member 43466]

hi
ive used cooking oil for a few years in two landrover discovery.
the first one was a 300 tdi ran no problem. the second was a newer one
with the 5 cylinder bmw engine common rail. it felt like it ran better on it.
it was waste oil from cafes we used to collect it when up at scotland heat it
up on campfire filter it through tights then straight in tank. cost nothing
i had it in a iveco 2.8 year 2000. it stood idle for just over a year outside.
put good battery on it started straight up and ran spot on. i would always
carry a spare fuel filter in case of a blockage with fat. and some fuel to
fill it with when you install it. saves bleeding.

 

[invalid]

When we changed to BD, it cleaned all the crap out of the engine and lines and tank, I save 2/3 the cost of fuel, I make the best BD that can be made, up to 12% in your dino fuel can be BD, it feels like we have an extra gear, this is not veg oil, this is WVO second life chemically changed to make BD.
Legally I can produce 2,500lts for my use before tax, I can hold 5,000lts of oil am registered with EH and H&S to have dangerous chemicals.
This is not for the faint hearted or non-maths or careless to do.
I have driven in excess of 100,000mls, saved £1,000’s and been a friend to the environment.
Too many old wives tails read all the scientific papers and make your own mind up, the reason that not many people make BD, is a simple one, very few people produce BD because most people would end up blowing themselves up, so they blend oil instead.
I have taught a few people who have the ability, and they are very happy bunnies, there’s something comforting about having a full tank of BD, and knowing you have not been screwed by the government.

 

[wildman]

I wouldn't mind a little tuition if you have the time, when its warmer of course, you are not too far away.

 

[trevskoda]

in the wintere it turns to sludge in your tank and blocks the filters it is also very prone to diesel bug. Tried it once for a few months but repeatedly breaking down with blocked filters soon put me off, however I also know of people who have run on it for years. Once it became legal the price of raw oil shot up and it was no longer viable.

You dont use raw oil,but wast/used oil which has to be treated with methanol then washed with water which falls to bottom of tank taking all the s--t with it leaving you with better stuff than you buy at pumps,ireland is the fuel laundering capital he he.:scared:

 

[trevskoda]

They have found a way. My regular supplier had to stop producing because the tax the man levied on it made it more expensive than diesel! Apparently you can still make a certain amount tax free each year for personal use. Not sure of quantity think it might be 1000 litres but don't quote me...:idea-007::drive: Plus it makes your exaust smell likechips.... which can only be a good thing! lol
STAY SAFE & KEEP ON KEEPING ON :banana::cool1::wave::banana::cool1::wave::cheers:

2500 before tax ,but how do they know and there not realy interested.

 

[trevskoda]

hi
ive used cooking oil for a few years in two landrover discovery.
the first one was a 300 tdi ran no problem. the second was a newer one
with the 5 cylinder bmw engine common rail. it felt like it ran better on it.
it was waste oil from cafes we used to collect it when up at scotland heat it
up on campfire filter it through tights then straight in tank. cost nothing
i had it in a iveco 2.8 year 2000. it stood idle for just over a year outside.
put good battery on it started straight up and ran spot on. i would always
carry a spare fuel filter in case of a blockage with fat. and some fuel to
fill it with when you install it. saves bleeding.

First you must do a titration test then methanol wash and then cleaned with water before use,simply running old oil through tights is asking for trouble.

 

[maingate]

Speaking with my engineer's hat on, I wouldn't put any of this within a 10 mile radius of MY Mh!!!
No possibility of quality control, certainly well outside the fuel spec for your engine. A nightmare to get rid off, not just draining the tank but flushing the entire fuel system etc etc. Could be a high percentage of water in it too, water freezes, as you probably know!
Another way of looking at this...........................how much fuel do you actually use in a year, in a Mh??
Willing to bet you do, as most of us do, circa 5000 miles a yr, at circa 25Mpg = 200galls = 909 ltrs, @ circa 109p/ltr = £990. So where's the real saving?
You quote 300 ltrs for £225, or in my calc above 900 ltrs for £675. £900 - £675 = £225 per year!!!!!!!!!!!! (OR if you do lots of miles, then a "saving" of £225/5000miles)

Using waste oil for Biodiesel is a tried and trusted process for many diesel engines. I believe yours is an older generation diesel engine and would be suitable for Bio.

Speaking with MY Engineers hard hat on, I would certainly do it if my engine was suitable ... but it's not. It is a simple, basic process that any Engineer could do.

In South Africa I helped make Petrol, Diesel and Avgas from Coal ...... but that was a bit more complicated and needed a large Refinery to bring unit costs down.

 

[Deleted member 43466]

First you must do a titration test then methanol wash and then cleaned with water before use,simply running old oil through tights is asking for trouble.

hi
never had any bother except blocked filter once. also used it in focus
1.8 td as well. travelling 300 mile each way up and down to scotland.

 

[invalid]

I wouldn't mind a little tuition if you have the time, when its warmer of course, you are not too far away.

When it get warmer give me a shout.

 

[invalid]

2500 before tax ,but how do they know and there not realy interested.

They track the chemical companies sales, and if your buying too much, you’ll get a visit.

 

[Deleted member 775]

i ran my last merc c class250 on 50/50 diesel /veg oil no probs and with very little effect on performance or mpg ,also i ran my Alhambra on the same mix during the summer , reverting to diesel in the winter .yes at first the filters needed changing quite often but that was down to the crap that had built up over the years on shitty diesel ,veg oil actualy cleans the whole fuel system out and will lower your emissions. now this alhambra an 02 i have now i have tried on 50/50 mix and no ill effects ,but at the moment its hardly worth the mucking about realy to save what a few bob ,diesels not that expensive at the mo and the Alhambra is ultra economical ,better than many of these silly little hatch backs you get now .as for expensive repairs up to 2k who realy cares all my cars cost under 1k ,exept that god dam awfull bmw i had ,what a heap of cow dung that thing was so its off to scrap with them ,or spares or repair on the bay , you get more money there than the robbing scrappy lot . my last mondy i had cost me 200 quid ,ran it for over a year the clutch went ,sold it on an on line auction ,not the bay either for 275 quid . i also sold my old alahmbra on line after 3 years of ownership without even so much as a service none of my cars see a spanner if they dont need one, i dont lift the bonnet unless a warning light comes on thats why there there after all to warn you something needs looking at , and all in all i made a profit on that one aswell .