L.E.D. changeover.

Hia
Please bear with me Biggaraffe these work of your lesuire batter/ies will they work on electric hook up.
Would they be as bright as they are now
Thanks for your reply
 
Polly said:
Hia
Please bear with me Biggaraffe these work of your lesuire batter/ies will they work on electric hook up.
Would they be as bright as they are now
Thanks for your reply
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Thats OK Polly,
These are 12volt only. If your interior lights are 240 volt the same as your house bulbs then these will not work.

Most vans have 12 volt interior lights which will be run from a 12 volt battery charger or power source when on hookup. In short if your lights still work when you are not on hook up then they will most likely be 12volts and yes you can replace them with these bulbs. Its not possible to fit a 12v bulb into a 240v holder or visa versa.

Are they as bright, yes the ones linked too above are meant to be replacements for a cars turn signal so they must be as bright as the bulb being replaced.

Some people do not like the light from an LED, just like a kitchens flouresecent tube some people find the light to be false.

Mu advice buy one and try it :)
 
tresrikay said:
I still have 6 available, they are a straight replacement for the 2 pronged halogens that are in most spots. They do not replace the all in one M11 or G4 units, £4.50 each + £1.00 p&p. P.M. me if you want more info.
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have a look at www.allforlaptop.com they seem to have loads of different ones,
Cheers, Pete
 
The big bonus for me is that they don't give out heat like the halogen lights. I hate halogen lights when i'm cooking and it's hot. The LED didn't take much getting used to and I kind of like them now.
 
Sorry Polly I couldnt help myself.

I just could not help myself there. I am currently looking into changing all my lights in Big Bertha, so will be pricing up at the wholesalers and FleeBay also. I will let you all know how I go on and pass on the findings to all you lovely people on here. Except AJ of course,as he wont be going anywhere that needs lights as its dark in them Dungeons down SARTH. Hang all speeders I say. Till the next posting fairwell.

ps ,as to my trip to Ireland next year.
Bushmills have a big carpark and I have Emailed them in advance to ask permission to stop on there carpark for a night,:D after the big tour of course.
 
It is recommended that you buy the LED`s with the built in 12v regulator otherwise they can blow, just like ordinary bulbs.

Also, you can get them in softer, less harsh lights.
 
maingate said:
It is recommended that you buy the LED`s with the built in 12v regulator otherwise they can blow, just like ordinary bulbs duckie:rolleyes:.

Also, you can get them in softer, less harsh lights in pastel shades just like my limp lipstick .
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hummm thought as much :eek:

regards
aj
 
maingate said:
It is recommended that you buy the LED`s with the built in 12v regulator otherwise they can blow, just like ordinary bulbs.
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Not just recommended, it is essential they have an in line resistor built in which some of the cheaper led’s do not have.

The cheaper ones will be ok if you are purely using them on the battery. The problems arise when you are running the engine or have a battery charger on.

When buying led’s one should check with the supplier what the voltage range is. It should be some thing like 10~16v and make sure your charger goes no higher than that.

On the whole ordinary bulbs can take this to some degree and just get brighter, led’s will not get brighter, but very hot instead and heat is what kills led’s
 
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Hia

Readytoroll stated thet LED get hot :confused::confused:
I am beginning to get confused (no comments please) do they get as hot as everyday bulbs
Is it worth cahanging them????

If so I would do my 4 spots
then my strip light kitchen area
do they do strip light bulbs and progress to the main lights. I have not looked in them yet so don't know what kind of bulb is in
 
Polly said:
Hia

Readytoroll stated thet LED get hot :confused::confused:
I am beginning to get confused (no comments please) do they get as hot as everyday bulbs
Is it worth cahanging them????

If so I would do my 4 spots
then my strip light kitchen area
do they do strip light bulbs and progress to the main lights. I have not looked in them yet so don't know what kind of bulb is in
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Hi again Polly

In normal use if the power going into an LED is correct they will not get 'HOT' in the way that a normal light bulb does (they do get slightly warm). If you were to put a 12volt LED in and then put say 14Volts into it. If it does not blow then it might get hotter than normal.
The main reason you would want to replace a normal bulb with an LED is to reduce the amount of electricity that is being used and therfore your battery will last longer when wilding. If this is not what you are after doing then the expense may not be worth it.

With regards to your strip lights these will probably be Flourecent Tubes, I am not aware of any replacement led lights that will fit these (someone may correct me). I would expect that you would need to replace the entire fitting. Last weekend we saw a new Kontiki with a strip of LEDS being used as an awning light. However the amount of power saved by replacing a flourecent tube may not make it worthwhile anyway. In general flourecent tubes are quite economical to use. Maybe someone has knowledge of the amount of power used by a 12v flourecent tube.
 
Florescent tubes are quite energy efficient. Typically 8-15w for a small tube.
 
Hi Polly,
I like them because they don't get hot. I can't stand the heat from Halogen lights when i'm cooking.
regards

Simon
 
biggirafe said:
Hi again Polly

In normal use if the power going into an LED is correct they will not get 'HOT' in the way that a normal light bulb does (they do get slightly warm). If you were to put a 12volt LED in and then put say 14Volts into it. If it does not blow then it might get hotter than normal.
The main reason you would want to replace a normal bulb with an LED is to reduce the amount of electricity that is being used and therfore your battery will last longer when wilding. If this is not what you are after doing then the expense may not be worth it.
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This issue is puzzling me.

I was always under the impression that a vehicle runs at or about 13.8 volts in normal driving use. It is only when the alternator stops producing and the battery stands for a while that it reaches 12volts.

If I change my side lights to LEDs for Parking (Over 3500kg need sidelights on while parked in lay-by on roads over 30 mph speed limit.) Will these burn out faster if I run with sidelights on (In fog or at night)?

I have only two non-florescent lights in my van (Spotlights at 12v 21W) plus two 5w bulbs in the awning light.

I have seen bulbs listed with the normal bayonet fittings to replace side and stop/tail lights. I see no point in changing flasher bulbs as these are only used while the vehicle is running or for hazard lights.

My gas generator auto senses battery voltage and cuts out at 14.5v so if I fit LEDs to the interior they may have that voltage applied while charging the leisure batteries

Your advice and opinions please.
 
I believe that over-voltage will reduce LED life, but then so it does with halogen too. And since LEDs have a much longer working life (10 + times that of halogen) I don't think it is a major problem with LEDs. Just an opinion though.
 
LEDs sold for '12v' vehicle use - including motorhome/caravan interior lights - will have their own internal voltage regulator. 12v LEDs sold for domestic/commercial lighting are designed to run off a regulated power supply and so usually do not have the internal regulator. They are cheaper, but their life will be reduced when operated at more than 12v.

I got all my LEDs from Aten Lighting

AndyC
 
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Hia
I would like to thank you all for helping me to make my mind up on should I or should I not change my lights for LED
I have decided to leave alone
But Thank You All
 
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