Vehicle Tax

johnmac185 said:
From 1st October you should destroy your current tax disc, you will be no longer required to display a disc,,,John
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My understanding is that if you have a tax disc then legally you should display it until the time that it expires. On a wider point, I seem to be in the minority in thinking that the change is a good idea - but that may have something to do with the fact that my disc nearly always needs renewing when I am out of the country. It was ok renewing it online but the disc was sent to my home so technically I was driving illegally until I got home, often months later! In this day and age, a piece of paper to stick on your windscreen is a bit anachronistic. Mind you, I think they should do away with the tax altogether - we already pay more tax on fuel than most other mortals!

Just one more point - it was earlier suggested that you could SORN your vehicle whilst in Europe. This is illegal and potentially very dangerous - if you have an accident while the vehicle is SORNed you are not only invalidating your insurance but are immediately open to prosecution. As stated by others, in the EU you have to comply with the tax/insurance rules of your home country - that includes having a valid road tax.
 
John H said:
My understanding is that if you have a tax disc then legally you should display it until the time that it expires. On a wider point, I seem to be in the minority in thinking that the change is a good idea - but that may have something to do with the fact that my disc nearly always needs renewing when I am out of the country. It was ok renewing it online but the disc was sent to my home so technically I was driving illegally until I got home, often months later! In this day and age, a piece of paper to stick on your windscreen is a bit anachronistic. Mind you, I think they should do away with the tax altogether - we already pay more tax on fuel than most other mortals!

Just one more point - it was earlier suggested that you could SORN your vehicle whilst in Europe. This is illegal and potentially very dangerous - if you have an accident while the vehicle is SORNed you are not only invalidating your insurance but are immediately open to prosecution. As stated by others, in the EU you have to comply with the tax/insurance rules of your home country - that includes having a valid road tax.
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Hi John, here is extract from DVLA website regarding the above,,,

""From 1 October 2014, the paper tax disc will no longer need to be displayed on a vehicle windscreen. If you have a tax disc with any months left to run after this date, then it can be removed from the vehicle windscreen and destroyed. This includes customers with a Northern Ireland address, however they will still need to display their MoT disc.""

hope this helps all who are in doubt,,John
 
johnmac185 said:
Hi John, here is extract from DVLA website regarding the above,,,

""From 1 October 2014, the paper tax disc will no longer need to be displayed on a vehicle windscreen. If you have a tax disc with any months left to run after this date, then it can be removed from the vehicle windscreen and destroyed. This includes customers with a Northern Ireland address, however they will still need to display their MoT disc.""

hope this helps all who are in doubt,,John
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I stand corrected - thanks :D
 
Vehicle tax changes from 1 October 2014: No more tax disc

DVLA is changing the law to get rid of the need to display a paper tax disc.

From 1 October 2014, the paper tax disc will no longer be issued or required to be displayed on a vehicle windscreen when vehicle excise duty is paid. Tax discs will no longer be available.

The benefits of paper tax discs have become redundant over time as the DVLA and police rely on DVLAs electronic vehicle register to check if a vehicle is taxed.

DVLA will retain digital records of taxed and untaxed vehicles which the police will be able to access.

Another important change is that from 1 October when a vehicle is sold any outstanding tax on it will be refunded to the vendor, leaving the vehicle untaxed. The new owner is responsible for taxing the vehicle immediately.

Below are answers to some of the most commonly asked questions about changes.

1.Who will this apply to?
Everyone who needs to tax their vehicle.

2.Will the police continue to check the tax status of vehicles?
Yes. With no visual check available the police can look up a registration number on the Police National Computer (PNC) system. Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) cameras will also recognize untaxed vehicles.

3.What happens if the police recognise an untaxed vehicle?
The police will inform DVLA, which will issue an enforcement notice to the registered keeper of the vehicle.

4.Will the lack of a tax disc hinder the police in checking the tax status of vehicles?
No. Enhanced IT capabilities more than make up for the loss of the visual check.

5.Will this lead to more people not paying their vehicle tax?
DVLA takes enforcement action directly from the vehicle register. The use of tools like Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) cameras and wheelclamping also enforce more effectively against those who fail to pay their vehicle tax. These enforcement measures have helped to improve compliance and vehicle tax evasion is at a historic low. The latest estimate of vehicle excise duty evasion is just 0.6%. There is no evidence to suggest that getting rid of the paper tax disc will make this increase.

6.Will DVLA or the police allow any grace period after buying a vehicle in which to get it taxed?
No. From 1 October it will no longer be possible to transfer the benefit of vehicle tax to the new keeper when a vehicle is sold and the person buying a vehicle will always need to license it immediately. This provides protection and clarity to motorists of what their responsibility is as it will prevent the new keeper of a vehicle from unknowingly keeping an unlicensed vehicle. There will not be any grace period.

7.How does this work for vehicles that are exempt from payment of vehicle tax, e.g. Disabled tax class?
The requirement to apply for vehicle tax will not change for any individual including those in the Disabled Tax Class. The only change will be that the paper tax disc will no longer be issued and required to be displayed on a vehicle windscreen.

8.Will motorists still get a reminder when the vehicle tax runs out?
Yes. There will be no change to the issue of the Renewal Reminder (V11s and V85/1s).

9.How will I know if a vehicle is taxed?
Any person may check the tax status of any vehicle by using DVLAs Vehicle Enquiry System. The vehicle enquiry system can be accessed by visiting www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/

10.What if I need a tax disc to get a parking permit/car parking space?
All Local Authorities will be made aware of the change to law where tax discs will no longer be available.

More information is available at www.gov.uk/dvla/nomoretaxdisc
 
One though that crosses my mind is that they have now removed one of the great arguments against doing away with road tax completely and recovering the money from road fuel, namely that the tax disc required documentary proof of insurance and MOT. Now this is all done electronically there is no real need for the tax disc or the tax disc system. Add the tax to road fuel, every one pays and you will still be checking the insurance and MOT through ANPR just as they do today.
 
maxi77 said:
One though that crosses my mind is that they have now removed one of the great arguments against doing away with road tax completely and recovering the money from road fuel, namely that the tax disc required documentary proof of insurance and MOT. Now this is all done electronically there is no real need for the tax disc or the tax disc system. Add the tax to road fuel, every one pays and you will still be checking the insurance and MOT through ANPR just as they do today.
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Don't be silly ......... What you've done here is applied common sense and we all know this doesn't work when referring to the government!!
 
New Rover said:
MOT disc??????
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yes in n/ireland you have to display a mot disc,all our test stations are gov run so there is no backhanders,the disc is the same size as a tax disc with your reg and pass date plus cert number on it.
 
you arent alone i have several car tax holders and a full box of motor bike ones . ha ha .
might find a use for them one day.
 
Thanks for the info on MOT discs.
Am I correct in thinking that UK tested vehicles (NI notwithstanding) do not require these discs as I have travelled through France, Germany, Netherlands and Belgium without one on my windscreen?
 
New Rover said:
Thanks for the info on MOT discs.
Am I correct in thinking that UK tested vehicles (NI notwithstanding) do not require these discs as I have travelled through France, Germany, Netherlands and Belgium without one on my windscreen?
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Hi.

No MOT disc required or available in the UK.

There used to be a sticker on your MOT that was just to remind you when it ran but no longer available since they changed the certificate format.

The MOT is recorded on line now so in effect you don't even need a physical certificate .
 
I suppose that the way things are going, pretty soon we will not have to carry any documents at all in the UK, (or whatever format we head into after18/09/14.
As insurance, MOT, and driving licence information is all readily checked by police stops then I wonder how long it will be before we are all Chipped like our pets with all relevant information required by Big Brother.
Some might say a good thing, but others will be appalled at such an idea.
 
[QUOTE=New Rover;455384]I suppose that the way things are going, pretty soon we will not have to carry any documents at all in the UK, (or whatever format we head into after18/09/14.
As insurance, MOT, and driving licence information is all readily checked by police stops then I wonder how long it will be before we are all Chipped like our pets with all relevant information required by Big Brother.
Some might say a good thing, but others will be appalled at such an idea.[/QUOTE]

hi New Rover, at the moment you don't have to carry any documents in the UK, motoring docs may have to be produced at a police station if the police stop you and are in doubt if you hold any docs at all,,,,John
 
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