Astra Satellite Footprint

Well John H do you not think recent posts make my point succinctly. Satellites I tell you,they're the work of the Devil:sad:
 
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lebesset said:
why do you think that ?

it's where I rest my head and can assure you that what you say is not the case !
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I was receiving all freesat channels at 100% at La Plagne near Grenoble at the end of February with a 68cm dish. This seems to be better reception than people have reported in the southwest of France with 85cm and larger dishes.

Kev
 
maxi77 said:
I can assure you that the lack of reception in much of Iberia is a reality, the suppliers of dishes to expats are now selling IPTV services as fast as they can, as I said try that madid companies websit for info
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It has always been the case that the kind of dish that you can fit to a motorhome would not pick up the main television channels in southern Spain - thus things will not have got worse! My question related specifically to BBC radio reception, which used to be ok all over Spain. It appears that there may now be corners of the country where radio reception is not possible but I am cheered by the evidence that it is still possible in many parts of the south.

I am fully aware that expats are having to buy larger dishes (or maybe not get television reception at all). That was not the subject of my query. The kind of dish needed to receive television in Almeria was always well beyond what any sensible person would fit on a motorhome.
 
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All I can say W. is that TV programme personal preference is one of the best examples of subjective choice. No two individuals are ever likely to agree, mathematically the permutations possible on a list of programmes 50 long are astronomical. They may agree on a genre or two I suppose.

The BBC outsources much, but the production does have to meet their exacting? standards. I realise some will say the standards/quality bar isn't set high enough, was always thus, a few repeats from the good old days are sometimes testament to that.

I believe the BBC even now set the standard by which others are measured even if it is via programmes produced by independents. That the BBC management and executives are overpaid despite the recent pay shakedown, finds no argument with most licence payers. It's my contention that the cameramen/directors/journalists, in other words the people at the coalface produce, in general, quality programmes. Indeed I suspect that many of those outsourced indie programmes would appear to be made by ex BBC employees trained up at Licence Payers expense. Rather like the publcly trained Doctors that end up working for the private sector, a saving to the private sector of £250000+ per quack.

Eastenders.... isn't that todays Shakespeare ?
 
I thought it wouldn't take long for you to squeeze your prejudices into a thread where they have no relevance! Of course, that nice Mr Murdoch allows his programmes to be watched on an 85cm dish in Spain - as does ITV and Channel 4 and Channel 5.......and all the other privately-owned television companies.
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This is not about who runs the BBC; it is about the reception available for all transmitters on the new satellite. But nice try!

Incidentally, the last time I over-wintered in southern Spain, the only radio channels from the UK that were available were from the BBC. Those nice commercial stations couldn't be received at all.
 
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John H said:
I thought it wouldn't take long for you to squeeze your prejudices into a thread where they have no relevance! Of course, that nice Mr Murdoch allows his programmes to be watched on an 85cm dish in Spain - as does ITV and Channel 4 and Channel 5.......and all the other privately-owned television companies.
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This is not about who runs the BBC; it is about the reception available for all transmitters on the new satellite. But nice try!

Incidentally, the last time I over-wintered in southern Spain, the only radio channels from the UK that were available were from the BBC. Those nice commercial stations couldn't be received at all.
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Sorry but it was the choice of the BBC and ITV. both of the satellites they use have a beam which covers southern Europe well and they very deliberately chose not to use it. It does piss me off to be parked up next to Germans and Frogs who get their full home TV catalogue with a 50cm dish whilst I get almost nothing with 1,4 metres. Not only that but the tinternet has been pretty poor since the change over as most people are trying to watch UK TV over the internet Yes you can still get Sky programmes and some others though it is rumoured that when the next satellite goes up Sky programmes and most others will follow BBC, ITV and channels 4 and 5.

The reality is that it is only UK expats and holiday makers who are denied by deliberate policy of the broadcasters the opportunity to view home TV. Typical of 'Nasty UK'.
 
I think a point that is overlooked is that people who live in other countries are gradually having to change to pay satellite
as a french speaker I enquired about getting french satellite reception only to find that I would have to subscribe to canal + ....can't you still get Sky TV in spain for the moment anyway ?

french satellite TV can be viewed over the border in spain ; uk satellite TV can be viewed over the border in france ...what's the difference?
 
lebesset said:
..can't you still get Sky TV in spain for the moment anyway ?
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Basically, with a large enough dish you can get everything. However, it is a bit difficult to fit a 2.4 metre dish to the top of my Hymer! ;)
 
Got to you then, did I? ;):raofl:

PS if anyone can tell me the relevance of this to the thread then I will happily withdraw my previous comment. Otherwise, point proven, I think.
 
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Not my sole aim - but I must admit it is fun! :D

PS A grammatical point (I know you are keen on those): if you are "not bothering" with me any more, why do you ask me a question? A question implies an answer; an anticipated answer implies that it will be read; if it is read it implies there will be a response.

PPS Another grammatical point: I did not ask for the support of others; I asked if anyone could explain the relevance of your point. "Anyone" includes you. I take it, therefore that not even you can justify the relevance.

PPPS My apologies to anybody else who is still reading this - but he does ask for it! ;)
 
No need to apologise, I only carried on reading it to see if somebody blames it on a dog walker or cyclist
 
In the south of france

So is it true, I can not get any channels with my oyster dish, it worked at the Milau , but not at argeles on the south. Please could some one let me know so I can stop my husband messing with the dish .
Thanks karen
 
Krnwllms said:
So is it true, I can not get any channels with my oyster dish, it worked at the Milau , but not at argeles on the south. Please could some one let me know so I can stop my husband messing with the dish .
Thanks karen
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Yep it appears so. There is a huge long thread about it on FACTS and it seems the very south of France is about as good as you will get if your lucky with the biggest motorhome dishes and its sporadic from the Dordogne downwards. It may work in one location and 20 miles down the road it may not.

One member who has an 85cm dish on his house in the Lot had to jig it about a bit to get it working.

Its a shame but what can you do?

As soon as wifi and 4G becomes better and lower cost then eventually we will all be watching TV via the internet I reckon. If the roaming rates are done away with next year which seems to be likely then that should be the start of things changing for us motorhomers. We will probably in a few years look back and say "Remember when we all used to cart bloody great dishes around Europe to get the telly!" :D
 
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