Remapping cost

I have the same engine as Tezza, 2002 Fiat 2.8JTD but in a Hymer B584 Classic and I get just over 30mpg, I am very light footed but not slow
 
Done 160 miles tonight and staying at Yeovil. Will do the last 35 miles in the morning. And to be honest...there is no difference in mpg I don't think. But 145 miles of that was motorway so my driving was exactly the same.
The hymer must be better on mpg because of the bed we have above the cab. Plus I think it's about 4.5 tonne
Torque excellent but now another problem.....there is so much torque that the clutch is slipping .....so now I have to think about a new clutch grrrrrrrrrrr
 
Done 160 miles tonight and staying at Yeovil. Will do the last 35 miles in the morning. And to be honest...there is no difference in mpg I don't think. But 145 miles of that was motorway so my driving was exactly the same.
The hymer must be better on mpg because of the bed we have above the cab. Plus I think it's about 4.5 tonne
Torque excellent but now another problem.....there is so much torque that the clutch is slipping .....so now I have to think about a new clutch grrrrrrrrrrr




I think you`ll find your a little off the mark when you say " about 4.5 tonne ".

It`ll be either 3.5 tonne or 3.85 tonne and might be 4.1 tonne if it`s been uprated and has the correct rated tyres.

Your MTPLM / MGW ( gross weight ) will be on the Vin Plate which is more than likely on the Slam Panel under the bonnet.
 
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.there is so much torque that the clutch is slipping .....so now I have to think about a new clutch grrrrrrrrrrr

Wasn't going to mention that but now you have yesterday while visiting a local garage I saw a fairly new Peugeot van with gearbox removed for new clutch to be fitted it had only done 15000 mls mechanic couldn't find any fault but blamed the remap it had also saw the customer who was also in grrrrrrrrrr mode
 
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Can someone work out the payback period of a remap ??

Remap cost £200 - £250 (cheap one)

average mileage 6000

Normal MPG = 22 - 23

increase in MPG 2 - 3 miles
 
Apparently Fiat do not make an uprated clutch plate but you may be able to get something better from an after-market manufacturer if you look into it. Some owners reckon the Fiat clutch is made of cheese! :p
This is why I prefer a tuning box, it can be set wherever you feel comfortable. My van has a 5 ton MAM and the setting is about halfway. I could get about another 20 BHP if I set it to Max power but prefer it where it is.
 
Apparently Fiat do not make an uprated clutch plate but you may be able to get something better from an after-market manufacturer if you look into it. Some owners reckon the Fiat clutch is made of cheese! :p
This is why I prefer a tuning box, it can be set wherever you feel comfortable. My van has a 5 ton MAM and the setting is about halfway. I could get about another 20 BHP if I set it to Max power but prefer it where it is.



Exactly the same here and one of the reasons i went for the Tuning Module over the Remap is that you can adjust it yourself.

I`ve got mine set at Medium Torque and Medium BHP and 6 years / 40,000 miles later it`s doing fine and the clutch is good.

If i set it at High and High it will spin the wheels quite easily even in the dry and heaven knows what it would be doing to the clutch.
 
Can someone work out the payback period of a remap ??

Remap cost £200 - £250 (cheap one)

average mileage 6000

Normal MPG = 22 - 23

increase in MPG 2 - 3 miles


I`m not really bothered about the " payback period " i bought mine to achieve more Torque and it does that admirably well.

The increase in MPG is a bonus and it really is a much more relaxed drive with far fewer gear changes.

The slightest hint of an incline now does not require a downshift.
 
Like i said ..the torque is great ( wheelspins in first gear hahahahah)But i have done 25,000 miles in the last 12 months so i think even a 2mpg increase will soon recoup the cost of the remap.25,000 miles at 22mpg is 1,136 gallons....25,000 at 25 mpg is 1000 gallons so 136 gallons saved a year for me (i hope)So if i can get 3mpg more...IF....... it will save me £834 per year.If my figures are wrong somebody will correct them lol
 
Oh forgot to mention....Cost of remap was £170....asked for discount for cash so £160 ....lol cash is king
 
Yes David...its our only vehicle.Plus parents live in Wales and dad was really poorly so we were going down every week. But even if we dont do that we expect to spend at least 4 or maybe 5 nights a week in in the van. We just love being out and about in it. And luckily we dont have to work anymore.Hoping to do spain and portugal in june for a month or maybe more. So the mileage soon racks up
 
My concern is there is a reason the manufacturer sets the engine up as it leaves the factory and what are the long term issues with remapping ?
Perhaps other members have more knowledge / personnel experience.

How does this effect a vehicle warranty ?

I think you will find it does, mixed results I think, it works for some but not for others.
 
Mapping V tuning box

I have tried mapping over the years on various vehicles and IMOH you are far better with a tuning box, I personally have 1 fitted to my car (Tiguan R line) and 1 on my new VW T5 4motion and as soon as I finish my sprinter conversion it will be getting one as well.
I have tried several types of tuning boxes and now I only use DTUK ( not the cheapest by far ) because if you have any problems with the box you they are very very helpfull.
 
I have a Performance & Economy Diesel Tuning by Tunit - Work, Play & Save fitted on my 2.8JTD Fiat (4.5t max), and I have been 'playing' with the settings for a few months now.
The vehicle came (second hand) with the Tunit box already fitted and set at number 7 (0-9 settings), with this setting I have been getting about 25mpg.
The vehicle has pulled well on the hills and has a good turn of speed when overtaking, but I really wanted to know if this box worked, so I initially set the box to number 9 and set off on a 240 mile trip to south Wales a few months back, however there did not seem to be much difference that I could tell.
The box was set at number 1, and another similar journey recently made it quite clear that there was a distinct lack of torque, on the hills and when overtaking lorries on the motorway.
The box has been set back to number 7, where it shall stay now.
As for fuel consumption, I am not sure, but I did seem to get about an extra 20 miles per tankful, ( I usually get about 300 miles before the fuel light, but with the setting on 1, a further 20+ miles) not really enough to justify the lack of torque, without the box set to a higher setting.
 
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I have tried mapping over the years on various vehicles and IMOH you are far better with a tuning box, I personally have 1 fitted to my car (Tiguan R line) and 1 on my new VW T5 4motion and as soon as I finish my sprinter conversion it will be getting one as well.
I have tried several types of tuning boxes and now I only use DTUK ( not the cheapest by far ) because if you have any problems with the box you they are very very helpfull.

Interesting, warranty is up in a month. 230+hp sounds good. :)
 
Like i said ..the torque is great ( wheelspins in first gear hahahahah)But i have done 25,000 miles in the last 12 months so i think even a 2mpg increase will soon recoup the cost of the remap.25,000 miles at 22mpg is 1,136 gallons....25,000 at 25 mpg is 1000 gallons so 136 gallons saved a year for me (i hope)So if i can get 3mpg more...IF....... it will save me £834 per year.If my figures are wrong somebody will correct them lol

I have a Fiat 3ltr Auto had mine remapped at Carafit not far from where you had yours done in Cross Hands , they came to my house and cost £250 he was with me for about an hour . I was asked a load of questions of what my driving style was even asked if I intented to tow no was the answer but if I needed to in the future then come back and he would re map again for no charge . The transformation in driving , torque etc is amazing also get around an extra 5mpg think I could get more if I eazed off a bit . Never intended to consider the re-couping costs . On a previous van I had re-mapped which was a 3ltr manual I did notice the clutch starting to slip , but nothing wrong with the clutch you just need to alter your driving style put the power down gradually or you will spin the wheels or the clutch will slip . Worth the extra money definately yes , use Carafit again Yes .
 
I have tried mapping over the years on various vehicles and IMOH you are far better with a tuning box, I personally have 1 fitted to my car (Tiguan R line) and 1 on my new VW T5 4motion and as soon as I finish my sprinter conversion it will be getting one as well.
I have tried several types of tuning boxes and now I only use DTUK ( not the cheapest by far ) because if you have any problems with the box you they are very very helpfull.

Very interested in these as I have 2 diesel vehicles, the van (Fiat Ducato 2.3 150) and an ageing Volvo estate. If they really do what it says on the tin, it would be great - do you use the power or economy one, and what's the real noticeable effect?
 
I have a Fiat 3ltr Auto had mine remapped at Carafit not far from where you had yours done in Cross Hands , they came to my house and cost £250 he was with me for about an hour . I was asked a load of questions of what my driving style was even asked if I intented to tow no was the answer but if I needed to in the future then come back and he would re map again for no charge . The transformation in driving , torque etc is amazing also get around an extra 5mpg think I could get more if I eazed off a bit . Never intended to consider the re-couping costs . On a previous van I had re-mapped which was a 3ltr manual I did notice the clutch starting to slip , but nothing wrong with the clutch you just need to alter your driving style put the power down gradually or you will spin the wheels or the clutch will slip . Worth the extra money definately yes , use Carafit again Yes .
Hi...I can also vouch for carafit. I wanted to put a 225 amp leisre battery on instead of the 90 amp under the passenger seat. So the new one had to go right to the rear of the van. They did a really excellent professional job. Also they let me overnight on their premises with Ehu and even gave me a courtesy car while they were doing the job. But I didn't know they did remapping or would have definitely gone to them.
 
I've just booked my Lunar Premier (Renault Master 2.5 dci 120) in for remapping with Remap Science in Bradford. Special offer £150 during March. I'll let you know how I get on.
 
Re the above post. I've had a look and found some pretty poor reviews of these guys. Admittedly they are from "petrol heads" - no offence, but a couple of them have had some pretty sorry experiences so I think I'll cancel my appointment.
If anyone can recommend from personal experience a remapping service within driving distance of Bradford I'd be grateful.
Pat
 

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