Scarborugh Sea Front

janice rowell

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Been on Scarborough Sea Front today and the council were putting up notices
that Motorhomes were prohibited from parking there between 11.00 p.m. and 7.00 a.m.
 
You would have thought that they would want us visiting going into the winter as a lot of the sites will be closing until spring.
 
janice rowell said:
Been on Scarborough Sea Front today and the council were putting up notices
that Motorhomes were prohibited from parking there between 11.00 p.m. and 7.00 a.m.
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The council are total NUMPTYS
we were regulars there and have many friends on the sea front ,
But will never go there again untill they change there views towards motorhomes ,
 
What is it about this country, when car parks are empty at night and can be utilised then here we prohibit it's use
 
I think Northerner looked into the campsite issue and found that one member of the council had parents who owned a caravan park. So the connection may not be that strong.

Nevertheless I'm not going near Scarborough now and will tell other people likewise. I hope that word of mouth gets round and their tourist income will suffer while other more welcoming places in the area will see a boost in trade.
 
Been on Scarborough Sea Front today and the council were putting up notices
that Motorhomes were prohibited from parking there between 11.00 p.m. and 7.00 a.m.
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They've been up in Whitby for the last couple of months. B$ggered me for night time fishing.
 
DSCF4778.jpgThey are so short sighted I bet if the shops, pubs and other traders were asked it would be a different story. Why go to places in england where you are not wonted when you can cross the Chanel ( pos at a cost of 2 nights at an English camp site ) and have great facilities and all free, as i have said be for 5 weeks in France did not spend a euro on camp sites or tolls, but did spend in the French towns and were made welcome
 
dave and mary said:
View attachment 9227They are so short sighted I bet if the shops, pubs and other traders were asked it would be a different story. Why go to places in england where you are not wonted when you can cross the Chanel ( pos at a cost of 2 nights at an English camp site ) and have great facilities and all free, as i have said be for 5 weeks in France did not spend a euro on camp sites or tolls, but did spend in the French towns and were made welcome
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Couldn't agree more. Just returned from scarborough/Whitby spending more on parking than on an aire in France. Our holidays now revolve around when we have enough Tesco vouchers for the tunnel and then off to France and use aires.:wave :wave:
 
However, lest we forget:

Scarborough were on the point of providing Aires (or designated parking places for motorhomes). There were to be three of them. Plans had been approved.

New drive over parking situation - Local - The Scarborough News

When announced, you'd have thought there'd have been celebrations on here but, no, the council continued continued to be the target of virulent comments from the very members, here, who had previously castigated the council for not providing places for us. First we want Aires, then we don't. Some even wrote to the council recommending Aires and then didn't like it when they were provided.

The plans were shelved, ostensibly because of planning policy issues, but if I'd been a councillor for Scarborough, or a resident, or an employee even, and I'd read the stuff on here I'd have thought, "Well, why bother trying to help these people, They don't want Aires, they just want to park where they will without any thought for the preferences of the people who live here."

We might well have brought this on ourselves. We might still complain about other councils but as a group we can no longer bitch about Scarborough.
 
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maureenandtom said:
However, lest we forget:

Scarborough were on the point of providing Aires (or designated parking places for motorhomes). There were to be three of them. Plans had been approved.

New drive over parking situation - Local - The Scarborough News

When announced, you'd have thought there'd have been celebrations on here but, no, the council continued continued to be the target of virulent comments from the very members, here, who had previously castigated the council for not providing places for us. First we want Aires, then we don't. Some even wrote to the council recommending Aires and then didn't like it when they were provided.

The plans were shelved, ostensibly because of planning policy issues, but if I'd been a councillor for Scarborough, or a resident, or an employee even, and I'd read the stuff on here I'd have thought, "Well, why bother trying to help these people, They don't want Aires, they just want to park where they will without any thought for the preferences of the people who live here."

We might well have brought this on ourselves. We might still complain about other councils but as a group we can no longer bitch about Scarborough.
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they were never considering providing Aires, they were discussing charging £15 per night to park in certain car parks, which actually still applies, then normal day parking charges would still apply, meaning your talking £20 to stay in a car park with no facilities at all, that's what the gripe was, and still is, the car parks listed have always been on the "banned" list.
 
I'm a bit confused, do the new signs mean that cars can park overnight but motorhomes (Campervans?) cannot, even if not being used as a motorhome but as a car? Are other commercial vehicles excluded? If so is this not a clear case of discrimination?
 
I hate the EU. telling us what we can and cant do, but I wish they would bring in a law to stop the pompous council ba****ds from making discriminatory bylaws :mad2: about our NATIONAL HIGHWAYS
I used to like Scarborough, but I will give them a miss now....:mad1:
I wont even Pee in their public loos just in case someone spots me and complains that I could be peeing something I drank from elsewhere.......:wave:
 
It might be as well to remind ourselves of the facts. Uncomfortable facts sometimes. I'd recommend this
http://www.wildcamping.co.uk/forums...326-sometimes-were-our-own-worst-enemies.html
as a good read about how not to do things.




Oh yes, they were. We know very well what we mean by Aires and it shouldn't be neccessary to spell it out all the time. Dedicated parking spaces for motorhomes, then. I'll accept that as an Aire. And the proposed charge was to have been £10 - no need to talk it up to £15. £10 was bad enough. If the proposed scheme over 12 months was to be a success then the provision of other facilities were to have been considered then.

A result! But not for some of us.

The proper question to ask is "Where do we go from here?" Well, personally, I'm going nowhere from here. I've done my bit - as did you - although I didn't complain when Scarborough did as I - and you - suggested.

What I would do if I was still motivated, which I'm not? Well, in the first place, I'd not have rejected their Aires, I'd have tried to get them to tone the charge down. However, it's no different to the charge being levied by other councils and, increasingly, it's not so far from the charges being made in attractive, touristy, coastal regions by that paragon of Aires - France so it might have been difficult to get them to see sense on that.

But now. Then I think I'd be approaching the council to see what can be done about this planning permission. Planning permissin withheld? Then there's an appeal process - maybe. Or, being ex-service, I'd maybe ask if the three originally designated car parks would still be available on the basis of Nelson's blind eye.

But, I'm doing nothing. Too many whingers to take you to task for not meeting their needs exactly.

Read this thread again - it's illuminating.

http://www.wildcamping.co.uk/forums...326-sometimes-were-our-own-worst-enemies.html
 
Just Carry on.

I live here in Scarborough and I would recommend that you continue to park up as you have done. I can't imagine any council employee here working after 5pm never mind 11pm. Just go for it! Council is so short of money they are switching off street lights at night! Read your highway code, which recommends that if you are tired then for safety sake you should pull over for a sleep!
 
But the joke is you can park for free all day on the North shore after 31st October, but come 11pm, you have to move.
So, if people think i'm gonna spend nowt in the day there in Scarborough, whats the difference come 11pm then.?

So you spend a nice full day there, for free, then at 11pm drive off and find a quiet side road for the night.
Then at 7am, you trundle off the nice quiet side road, and head for the North shore again to spend the day there for Free...Remember this is after 31st October to the 01st of March.!

jt
 
I agree with you.

We all know what we mean by "Aires". There's no point in labouring fine points of meaning. Scarborough didn't mean that only motorhomes would be able to park in the parking spaces they designated. They were to have been on three car parks available to all motor users - not just us. Because of whatever democratic pressure they were under they wanted to exclude motorhomes from sensitive areas. As a group we don't like that.

But you're trying to confuse the rest needed during a journey and the use we'd make of an Aire. Scarborough wasn't so far away from France in its intentions.

What Scarborough said that were trying to do is pretty well what one of my favourite towns in France did. Like Scarborough they were getting fed up with motorhomes parking on the sea-front. I'm talking about Capbreton in the early 90s. So they provided parking places, with facilities, just out of town - not far out, maybe a 20 mins walk and I'd guess many of us are familiar with it. At the same time they, at first, banned overnight parking on the sea-front but I think motorhome parking is now banned at any time on the sea-front though I'm not sure about that - street view shows the front being dug up. I was around when all this was going on and I'm sure others were too and can modify my memory if needed. All those years ago, at first, the Aire was free. The free Aire didn't last forever and charging began within a year or two. At first in the touristy months and when it got to six Euros (or whatever it was at the time in French Francs) I stopped going there - or at least stopped going there to stay over. Perhaps somebody who stayed there recently will know what the present charge is. I'd bet it's not far short of the tenner Scarborough wanted to charge. I transferred my loyalties to Bayonne where they started charging in July and August and Tarnos just over the river where, the last time I was there a year ago they were putting in barriers and excluding motorhomes. Street view and google maps show the Aire I used in Bayonne is now full of cars and the Aire facilities seem to have disappeared. I hope street view is wrong or out of date because I want to go there again next Spring.

What Scarborough tried to do was pretty reasonable and I'm sure I could find many more examples like Capbreton which pretty well mirror exactly the situation in Scarborough.

I'm not talking down France. I've made many friends and I have my favourite places to go again and again. There are places I so love that I'm seriously considering having a static van on a site in France to go to when, perhaps, campervanning gets a bit beyond me - perish the thought.
 
Be careful

Amethyst said:
But the deputy mayor for Scarborough family own at least two camp sites.
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Amethyst,
Please be careful with such accusations, because as far as I am aware this is not true.
Such wild accusations do not improve our case at all.
No insults intened to you.. Lol.
 
I do not intend to trawl through old threads but is it not the case that there is going to be a £10 charge for the overnight stay followed by another parking charge for the day. If this is correct then what on earth can Scarborough offer to make it worthwhile to spend time there?

There are some places to overnight at a charge of around £5. Even at £10, I would expect one or two basic facilities.

Before I get an exasperated response from those who had dealings with Scarborough Council, you are not the only ones doing this sort of work in the background. If some replies do not suit you, let the thread fade away and get back to your dealings with Scarborough Councillors. It is obvious from more than one thread that many members are not happy with the status quo and will boycott the place. A few members appear to have worked out how to get round the new regulations but it would not work if everyone kept using Scarborough.
 
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