a sad way to live.

roland rat said:
Hi Graham&Kath,
Ive never dealt with Hamiltons but I know where he parks the Hymers that he has for sale, they are on a caravan site at Warton near Freckleton, Lancs. I havent spoken to anyone who has had any dealings with him so I cant comment, I do know that most of what he sells is left hookers which dont appeal to me.
Yes Im an old sweat of a tanker driver and done millions of miles with Gilbraith Tankers, we never turned away any bulk load no matter how dangerous it was to carry. The company has now been takenover by Hargreaves a large concern based in the north east. I have just over a year to do until Im put out to grass then we can get more use out of the Hymer, cant wait.
Its bad on the roads today congestion and jams allthe time, north of Inverness is the place to be, nice and quiet.
Im falling asleep thinking about it.
Snoozing
Roland Rat.
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hi just bin looking thro old posts i noticed you mentioned hargreaves in the northeast just wondered if you know if it is anything to do with hargreaves that used to be at rothwell near leeds i am going back some 40 od years now as my dad used to drive for them i do beleive they took over smith and robinson tankers at some time in fact dont know if you or anyone else remember the old film hell drivers but it was based on the old hargreaves company the original hargreaves was owned by briggadere (think thats how you spell it) hargreaves
 
Re: Dodgy Hymers

See P161 of this months MMM (Nov 07) They may be a VERY sort after m/h but just like all things with infernal combustion engines... you get rogue ones and poorly looked after ones!
 
the joys of motoring in a hymer

Hi Terry.
My heart has just sank,I have dreamed about owning a hymer for many years now to replace my little renault traffic.
Although I think you've been unlucky,and this is a rare occurance,it does make you think.
I've been on the verge of paying 10K for 16 year old models,but it makes you wonder about the risk involved and the stress it could cause.
I've even scoured the German sites with the idea of importing one, but the bio-diesel carry on has got me worried now.
I think I'll just stick with my trusty traffic and keep on dreamin.

Good luck with yours...Lenny:confused:
 
follow up

Hi all,Just a fellow up on the hymer, After 11 countries and 35000 miles, here are the good and bad points of the B544 to my mind.
GOOD. the setee, great after a days driving for resting my bad knee, would never buy a motorhome without that again. The kitchen area is a bit small, but I can make some good meals with the hob, we also use a cobb indoor bar-b-que. hanging space is ok, driving the hymer is ok, but it takes a bit of time to find the correct seat angle so as to stop my knee hitting the gear stick as I have long arms and short legs, returns around 25mpg all up and towing a trailer with quad and at motorway speeds so thats ok. lots of space for odds and ends, heating is very good and the hymer keeps in the heat which is good.
Bad points. drivers seat gets a bit hard after a time and makes driving a bit of hard work, outside mirrors can block the drivers view at times, outside lockers a bit small to be realy useful. needs air ride suspension as drive to the front wheels can be a bit light at times, climbing up into bed is a bore after a time, but once in its ok. fridge door keeps coming open due to position and poor door lock, steps don,t go back all the way at times.
would I buy other hymer, well yes but with two single fixed beds, and not a fiat base due to their poor switch gear.
Anything needing doing, well I need 3 new tires I have replaced one to date, 3 to go. I repainted and derusted the underfloor lockers and reset the locks. air suspension is on its way and will be in place by feb. and maybe a new fridge lock, and a top box for my fishing gear. And thats it. terry
 
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Well at the moment we are both in exmouth, had a death in the family and due to that reason we are here. Planning a trip for the end of feb. 1st off to france to pick up the Hymer, fit the new tires, air ride and check things out, then down to italy and into greece, back to france for the summer and then back to the UK around oct, nov time.
We had hopes of going to the states next year, but I have it in my head for some reason that this is not the time, so keeping a bit nearer. terry
PS.And yes the Hymer is OK, did look at buying a newer one but at this time don,t see the point now its sorted.
 
Having read through this post I feel some of the outrageous myths regarding biodiesel need to be dispelled.

Black goo left by running Biodiesel. What total c**p. Biodiesel is a very good detergent the only black goo you may get is that cleaned out of the system when you first start using bio. that was deposited by the mineral diesel. Hence the recommendation when you first start using bio extra filter changes are required until the system is clean.

Pump diesel now contains typically 5% biodiesel. Why. With the requirement to reduce sulpher content, using straight mineral diesel which is a poor natural lubricant would cause pump failures etc. adding bio, a very good natural lubricant, replaces the lubrication properties previously supplied by the sulpher. The idea that using biodiesel would cause problems due to lack of lubrication is laughable.

Smells like a chip shop. Anyone who makes this statement is talking absolute rubbish and does not know what they are talking about. The only instances I know of when vehicles smell of a "chip shop" is when they are run on WVO (waste vegetable oil) and only then if they are run without preheating the oil, ( typicaly 65'C + ). WVO and S(straight)VO are glycyl esters some what different to biodiesel, methyl ester. this link explains the difference.

http://www.biodiesel-fuel.co.uk/what-is-biodiesel/

Hope this helps to explode some of the myths and informs a little.
 
get off your horse

Geoff.W said:
Having read through this post I feel some of the outrageous myths regarding biodiesel need to be dispelled.

Black goo left by running Biodiesel. What total c**p. Biodiesel is a very good detergent the only black goo you may get is that cleaned out of the system when you first start using bio. that was deposited by the mineral diesel. Hence the recommendation when you first start using bio extra filter changes are required until the system is clean.

Pump diesel now contains typically 5% biodiesel. Why. With the requirement to reduce sulpher content, using straight mineral diesel which is a poor natural lubricant would cause pump failures etc. adding bio, a very good natural lubricant, replaces the lubrication properties previously supplied by the sulpher. The idea that using biodiesel would cause problems due to lack of lubrication is laughable.

Smells like a chip shop. Anyone who makes this statement is talking absolute rubbish and does not know what they are talking about. The only instances I know of when vehicles smell of a "chip shop" is when they are run on WVO (waste vegetable oil) and only then if they are run without preheating the oil, ( typicaly 65'C + ). WVO and S(straight)VO are glycyl esters some what different to biodiesel, methyl ester. this link explains the difference.

http://www.biodiesel-fuel.co.uk/what-is-biodiesel/

Hope this helps to explode some of the myths and informs a little.
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Hi, please don,t say I don,t know what I am talking about or be so rude in the way you say things. My Hymer was a german import and they have been using bio diesel for some time over in germany, The breakdown of bio diesel over time standing unused in a fuel tank ends up looking like a black mass, The german motorhome forums have been full of stories of faults with fuel systems and most have stopped using bio diesel or use a 40/60 split, In the USA truckers have also reported faults when using 100 % bio diesel and most have returned to normal fuel. Your idea of using chip shop oil is i total rubish being talked here. I am only telling it as I see it and as the engineers reported their findings to me. I am sorry that for all the stories but sround stateing how great bio diesel is, if it is in the tank for some time the breakdown of sugars will kill the fuel system. terry
 
terry1956 said:
Hi, please don,t say I don,t know what I am talking about or be so rude in the way you say things. My Hymer was a german import and they have been using bio diesel for some time over in germany, The breakdown of bio diesel over time standing unused in a fuel tank ends up looking like a black mass, The german motorhome forums have been full of stories of faults with fuel systems and most have stopped using bio diesel or use a 40/60 split, In the USA truckers have also reported faults when using 100 % bio diesel and most have returned to normal fuel. Your idea of using chip shop oil is i total rubish being talked here. I am only telling it as I see it and as the engineers reported their findings to me. I am sorry that for all the stories but sround stateing how great bio diesel is, if it is in the tank for some time the breakdown of sugars will kill the fuel system. terry
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one easy way is during the summer when using the van all the time use bio, in the winter use diesel. you are still saving a lot of cash, i only can use petrol so prob dont know too much about veg oil or bio diesel. bie the way i dont think anyone is rude or talking rubbish we all try to give info as we see it wether it be right or wrong, we just try to help. if the advice given is not correct then it is up to the individual to take it or not, non of us know every thing merry christmas.
 
terry1956 said:
Hi, please don,t say I don,t know what I am talking about or be so rude in the way you say things. My Hymer was a german import and they have been using bio diesel for some time over in germany, The breakdown of bio diesel over time standing unused in a fuel tank ends up looking like a black mass, The german motorhome forums have been full of stories of faults with fuel systems and most have stopped using bio diesel or use a 40/60 split, In the USA truckers have also reported faults when using 100 % bio diesel and most have returned to normal fuel. Your idea of using chip shop oil is i total rubish being talked here. I am only telling it as I see it and as the engineers reported their findings to me. I am sorry that for all the stories but sround stateing how great bio diesel is, if it is in the tank for some time the breakdown of sugars will kill the fuel system. terry
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I do not believe that any of my comments could be regarded as being rude as they where not directed at any individual but dealt with some of the common myths that surround this subject. I have no need to be rude or offensive as the facts and evidence support my views.

Here are some links to sites that give good but not too technical information

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel

http://www.dieselveg.com/

http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/EthylEsterofRapeOil.pdf

You attempt to claim that I have accused you of "not knowing what you are talking about". If you are taking this from my comments about the smell of a vehicle run on biodiesel, I will state again anything run on good clean biodiesel will not smell like a chipshop.
I would however from the things you have said, consider that not only have you been misinformed but I do not believe that you have researched the subject of alternative fuels, something I can assure you I have done over quite a considerable time.

If there has been so much concern in Germany over the use of biodiesel why are Volkswagen prepared to offer full warrenty even on B100 (100% biodiesel) usage. (See Wikipedia link above).

I would be intrested to know of your source of information regarding the use of biodiesel in the USA as from various articles I have read there would appear to be a growth in production.

Although I can't make proper sense of your comments regarding chipshop's, I would like to point out the original reference was made by you. If you are attempting to suggest the a diesel engine will not run on WVO (waste vegtable oil) then I am sorry but you know less about this subject than even I thought. Although using WVO presents general usage problems once warm and especialy if the oil is preheated an engine will run very well on it.

As to your comments about the breakdown of sugers, I can not understand where these sugers have come from. Biodiesel is what is refered to as a FAME Fatty Acid Methyl Ester. See here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatty_acid_methyl_ester

I admit that I am not a chemist but I can't say that I have come across a prosses that spontainiously converts fatty acids in to sugers.

I find the subject of biodiesel/alternative fuels an interesting one and do read up on it. I am always willing to listen to alternative points of view but consider supportive evidence to be essential as I do find there is an awfull lot of myth and unsubstanciated claims made.

These sites usually have some reasonable forum threads going on the subject.

http://www.sbmcc.co.uk/ UK site.

http://www.gm-diesel.com/ USA site.

I would like to finish by stateing that this post is made purely to inform, not to attack anybody or to be offensive, It redresses statements I believe to be incorrect and hopefully supplys the evidence that backs up my views.
I do and have here, challenged statements that are made, this should not be seen as a personal attack on those that have made the statement.
 
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