moderation poll

Should Phil ban the members that keep starting arguments or abusing other members?

  • Yes

    Votes: 288 91.4%

  • No

    Votes: 27 8.6%
  • Total voters
    315
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tiderus said:
Sooo. If you dislike the posts, why not also have a button to say so.

If however you reached say ten dislikes, (and this should tell you something.)

Them we get banned. SIMPLES?
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Bit open for abuse! :lol-053:

I think (though I'll bet the software is not so clever as to do it:egg: ) that a post that gets 10 dislikes gets automatically deleted is great, self moderation and as close to free speech as possible.

The issue will be in deleting the quotes used on the original post and it's a considerable amount of coding to work around that! :rolleyes2:

On the plus side of this debate, at least it looks like this are being dealt with. Personally it looked like there was apathy to the situation and is why I did not post or browse the forum much, shame as I'll be finished my self build soon and that where I'm sure this site has a steady feed of users who have joined as forum members until they finish and then join as full members when they have a use for the POI's etc...
 
My opinion would be to ban the persistent offenders who do not adhere to the sites rules. Perhaps a 'three strikes and you are out' rule.
The 'ignore' facility works ok, but if someone quotes the person you have ignored, you get to see what they have posted.
It is about time something was done quell the constant bickering that has happened lately.
 
jamesmarshall said:
I suspect that the majority of people on this website agree with freedom of speech. The difficulty is that some feel the need to abandon civility and courtesy in favour of incendiary adjectives and personal insult that more often than not lead to a bear fight between some and a reiticence from others to offer their views for fear of being drawn into what often becomes a protracted and vicious thread.
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I agree. As I said in my post, there are legal limits to free speech and there is no excuse for bullying. I made the point because, in the past, threads have been closed or removed where there has been a heated exchange of views without insults being involved. But my debates with Phil about free speech are well-known and I don't wish to divert the topic so I won't say any more about this aspect.
 
suspend first

Banning doesn't work, they'll just come back with a different ID.
 
John H said:
The problem with that idea is that it makes minority opinions on any subject seem worthless (and as someone who is often happily in a minority, I don't think I approve! :lol-053:). What most people are objecting to here is abusive and bullying behaviour - and that can be expressed by someone in the majority!
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Your right if people 'dislike' when they just don't agree with a factual matter, though I can see it being useful when poor or dangerous advice is given (I did this on SBMCC when I recommended 2 LPG regulators, thinking 0.5 bar was the same as .50mb, wrong by a factor of 10!) I wish I could have had that pulled by more knowledgeable members, I had at least put a Caveat that it was a fag packet design I'd been considering.

I doubt it's an implementable item anyway, though just having a 'Dislike' button would be good.
 
Atuin said:
Banning doesn't work, they'll just come back with a different ID.
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It does work... as the forum can remember all IP addy from which that member has posted.Where you can ban each IP ADDY..
 
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The Rebel Camper said:
It makes me laugh, your admin sets up a poll, asking for a reply... I have seen the majority of replies ( POLL )

So now is a time for decision.

I have seen ALL that I want to see now... and my vote has been passed... and may I say it WAS the correct vote.
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Its Phil's call not yours. In my view the above quote carries all the subtlety of the leader of a lynch mob in a cheap cowboy film. I hope this helps you on your road to enlightenment.
 
Andrew Davies said:
Your right if people 'dislike' when they just don't agree with a factual matter, though I can see it being useful when poor or dangerous advice is given (I did this on SBMCC when I recommended 2 LPG regulators, thinking 0.5 bar was the same as .50mb, wrong by a factor of 10!) I wish I could have had that pulled by more knowledgeable members, I had at least put a Caveat that it was a fag packet design I'd been considering.

I doubt it's an implementable item anyway, though just having a 'Dislike' button would be good.
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I take your point but wouldn't it be better in the example you give to immediately post a reply pointing out the mathematical dubiousness in the advice rather than waiting for ten people to "dislike" it in order to have it automatically removed? Apart from anything else, leaving the original post there with a correction will tell people that the advice given by this person should be treated very carefully in future. If it is removed then new viewers will not know to be careful. Anyway, I'm now in danger of leading the discussion off in two different directions in the space of two posts, so I'd better really stop now!:)
 
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Perhaps it would be fair to remind them to be polite, i.e. warn them; but if it is repeated then to ban them. Consideration helps the world go round, after all.
 
Abusive Members

Hi Phil,

Repeat offenders should be banned but one off rants should be acceptable as long as they are not overly abusive.

Best regards
 
I've belonged to various forums in the past, and found whatever the main theme of them were, there would always be some one com along to stir things up. Some forums banned the trouble makers totally, others gave out temporary bans, but the outcome was always the same:

Total ban, the troublemaker would return under a different guise (this was evident from the writing style)
Temporary ban, they returned to continue the 'fight'

It is human nature that we don't all see eye to eye, if it is just a heated discussion, I'd let it run its course, it will eventually burn out.

If it is a personal slanging match, is it possible to lock the thread?

The best of all, but probably the most difficult, is for the abused not to retaliate to the abuse, it is a known fact that to ignore a bully, hurts them most as they thrive on the attention of winding folk up.
 
jamesmarshall said:
Its Phil's call not yours. In my view the above quote carries all the subtlety of the leader of a lynch mob in a cheap cowboy film. I hope this helps you on your road to enlightenment.
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mmm

I am aware whos shout this is... and as to the rest of your post... just another online verbal bully pal, who cant get his own way in life...
 
A dislike button might sound like a good idea...unfortunately most forums are run on 3rd party software which can be tweaked (by built in preferences as to posts, display, and skins etc), but I've never heard of any forum software having the setting option of including a dislike button never mind setting it up to lock or delete threads.

To actually program in a dislike button probably would not be a financially viable option and might not be permitted by the software licence of use.

Am I correct Phil that this forum software does not have a dislike button availability?
 
Nighjty night all

Im forgetting my own FRIENDS.... night night

Ill play catch up with you when youve siorted out your problems!

OH... by the way...
can you describe my AVITAR??
 
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@ phil

Hi Phil.

Having read a large number of the posts on this subject, I can see both sides of the argument. Therefore in my humble opinion a clear decision has to be taken one way or another, right or wrong.

Therefore, if you are sure that someone is just trying to start a row for the hell of it, then YES a ban is whats needed. There is no perfect answer to this problem, so just go with the majority and get on with it.
 
tf bundy said:
Hi Phil.

Having read a large number of the posts on this subject, I can see both sides of the argument. Therefore in my humble opinion a clear decision has to be taken one way or another, right or wrong.

Therefore, if you are sure that someone is just trying to start a row for the hell of it, then YES a ban is whats needed. There is no perfect answer to this problem, so just go with the majority and get on with it.
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You seem a sensible bloke Phil and i am sure your discretion will work fine,even though it is hard to take such action i do think 3 strikes and your out but sometimes both partys would need to be surspended for a short lenght of time.I do find it difficult to understand how some people can get so nasty with each other on such a site as this, CHILL OUT GUYS LIFE IS TOO SHORT :p .
 
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