Cruise Ship Sinks due to Facebook Stunt

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Apparently the captain of the ill fated Costa Concordia had arranged to buzz the island close so that the head water could wave to his family on the cliffs on his home island of Giglio. It was organised on Facebook. The internet can be very damning at times. It seems a small thing has lead to unknown death and loss of £400 million ship.
 
Seems the media has already decided one man is to blame. I for one am prepared to wait for the facts to emerge once the matter has been fully investigated before jumping to uninformed conclusions.
 
In this case it seems there was no alternative explanation other than a calculated risk taken by the master which went tragically wrong.

Posts were on Facebook about the coming fly past, the head waiter was on the bridge with the captain at the time, and the ship was 4 miles off course.

From Reuters:

Just minutes before the Costa Concordia struck rocks and began taking on water, the head waiter's sister updated her Facebook status to say: "In a short period of time the Concordia ship will pass very close. A big greeting to my brother who finally gets to have a holiday on landing in Savona."

At least six people were killed in the accident, with a further 29 people - four crew and 22 passengers - still missing and fears that a fuel leak could cause an ecological disaster in the area.
Captain Francesco Schettino, 52, reportedly invited the head waiter, Antonello Tievoli, on to the bridge as he steered the vessel towards the coast of Giglio on Friday night.
"Come and see, Antonello, we're right in front of Giglio," the captain told Tievoli shortly before the crash.

Witnesses claimed the waiter had warned Captain Schettino just before the accident, saying: "Careful, we are extremely close to the shore."
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If anyone has a good logical alternative explanation of the circumstances it would be interesting to hear it.
 
Nor much of a captain anyway as it seems that he deserted his passenger nas well.
Nothing has changed with the Italians since the war. Women and children first "After the Captain of coarse" :lol-053:
 
A lot of people put too much personal information on the internet (especially Facebook)....even if the claims that the ship hit rocks not actually marked on charts are true, these postings on Facebook are going to damn him.
 
Again it seems like trial by media, until all the facts are known it is impossible to know if he is guilty or not. It is looking bad for him though.
 
Canalsman said:
I believe the cost of the ship was quoted as $5 billion !
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It said £400 million on the BBC, and £372 million on Wikipedia, 5 Billion seems a bit excessive!!! :lol-053:

Is anyone taking the stance that the Captain is innocent until proven guilty, prepared to have a sportsman's bet with me, that it was not in fact error of judgement on behalf of the Captain but some other cause such as an electronic fault which took the ship 4 miles off course to skim the Island. And in fact, the Captain was struggling to bring the ship back on course, the facebook posting about the future buzz past by the ship being either pure coincidence, or a lie fabricated by the press.

....I'm awaiting any takers :cool:
 
Firefox said:
It said £400 million on the BBC, and £372 million on Wikipedia, 5 Billion seems a bit excessive!!! :lol-053:

Is anyone taking the stance that the Captain is innocent until proven guilty, prepared to have a sportsman's bet with me, that it was not in fact error of judgement on behalf of the Captain but some other cause such as an electronic fault which took the ship 4 miles off course to skim the Island. And in fact, the Captain was struggling to bring the ship back on course, the facebook posting about the future buzz past by the ship being either pure coincidence, or a lie fabricated by the press.

....I'm awaiting any takers :cool:
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I wouldnt take your money, a far liklier explanation......I dont know about ships but certainly with aircraft they work to a cost index and any deviation requires a good explanation

Channa
 
Who says the accident is a laughing matter? The price of 5 billion to build the ship is though!

As for conjecture and opinion, you may as well close the forum down now if you didn't have them; that's what a forum is for... debate. It's not binding on the outcome of any official investigation.
 
Kontiki said:
Again it seems like trial by media, until all the facts are known it is impossible to know if he is guilty or not. It is looking bad for him though.
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Reminicent of the 'Edwards' the Landlord media speculation after his arrest Christmas a year back.....yes I agree Channa even go arounds by aircraft are not liked by the operators when the cause is someone elses fault as the fuel used is a few extra hundred quids worth and eats into profits, so I doubt the skipper of a cruise liner can just go off on a joyride off course without huge explanations to the owners/operators....was it not said that the strike took place further away from the island and the Captain immediately headed for shallow water aware sinking was inevitable....if that is correct he got pretty close to the shore before it sank.
 
It doesnt look good for the chap but nobody knows the whole story yet? Only what the media have said, also what the company have said, but if it was thier error they could be looking for a scape goat??

I am not saying either way - I am sure the truth will come out?
 
Viktor said:
..was it not said that the strike took place further away from the island and the Captain immediately headed for shallow water aware sinking was inevitable....if that is correct he got pretty close to the shore before it sank.
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And if that is the case, then an heroic effort to ensure rescuers were closer to hand.

Hopefully any inquiry will be impartial to press speculation and judge upon their findings...

Channa
 
***** said:
People have died and it certainly is no laughing matter.:sad: and certainly not to be bet on!
Let the authorities do their investigation.
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*****, I dont see where you conject anyone is laughing, and if you have heard the expression ' if I were a betting man' my comments echoed that of Firefox in more to it than merely press speculation.

I would hope, that for the sake of those who have lost their lives, an impartial and rigerous investigation is conducted to establish what truly happened, furthermore provide evidence that can prevent a similar occurence in the future.

regards

Channa
 
Canalsman said:
I believe the cost of the ship was quoted as $5 billion !
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Hi Canalsman, I believe the £5 billion cost was the estimated projected loss to the company. Their shares dropped by over 20% the day after the 'incident'. I say incident as I'm not yet prepared to believe it was an accident.
 
Yes the ship hit the rocks further out than where it finished. He then steered the ship away from the island and tried to turn it into the harbour when he realised the damage was too great and it was sinking fast. When he realised he wasn't going to make the harbour, he beached it on the nearest land just outside the harbour. The course of the ship was tracked by satellite and published so it's not a subject for much conjecture.

The Captain stated after the accident that he had taken a course to save as many lives as possible. In this he appears to have done as good a job as possible under the circumstances.

He later seems to have disgraced himself that he didn't stay with the ship till the evacuation was complete there being a few hundred to be taken off when he left. In this respect it doesn't seem to be as bad as thing as a sinking at sea, as the ship was effectively beached and there was a lot of external help available eg Coastguards, lifeboats and other competent personnel from shore were on hand. I guess he still should have been on the ship though, as he has knowledge of the ship that they don't.
 
This is so so sad, i dont have any opinion on blame as i think at the moment it is all speculation, i pray that they find survivors and that they can drain out the fuel so no more devestaion is caused.
 
This has nothing to do with wild camping other than condemn the captain wait until he gets fair trial first
 
Brandyman, i agree on the fair trial bit, but not on the discussion, this is headed under "general chat" and is good to chat about other things other than camping, it would be a very boring forum without diverse topics, as long as we stay on topic and dont get personal i think its healthy to have chats about curent affairs
 
Viktor said:
Reminicent of the 'Edwards' the Landlord media speculation after his arrest Christmas a year back.....yes I agree Channa even go arounds by aircraft are not liked by the operators when the cause is someone elses fault as the fuel used is a few extra hundred quids worth and eats into profits, so I doubt the skipper of a cruise liner can just go off on a joyride off course without huge explanations to the owners/operators....was it not said that the strike took place further away from the island and the Captain immediately headed for shallow water aware sinking was inevitable....if that is correct he got pretty close to the shore before it sank.
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yes i herd this too on the radio last night apparently there was a similar thing in alaska a few years a go where it struck a rock a 100 meteres from shore and the captin knowing the ship was vunrable to sinking beeched it on the shore to stop it sinking. In this case while obvious sumthing went wrong the ship i hered hit a rock around 400 meteres out . even th we need to wait to see if it was human error or a problem with the ship, and given that the ship is face the other way i.e south and beeched on the rocks perhaps they tried to do the same things on the island rocks to stop it sinking, if thats the sace it could be said 100s of lives have been saved. after all as thease things dont happen very often im sure the captin and the main staff would be aware of what other ships have done in similar situations. it may even be a handbook procedure . Just another take
 
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