Mot class

[jimmybanks41]

Hi, are motorhomes up to 3500 kg now required to get a class 7 mot instead of the usual class 4.
Thanks

 

[wildebus]

no

 

[RichardHelen262]

No they are class 4, mine is 4100kg and is class 4

 

[jimmybanks41]

no

My mate just messaged me to say they are now a class 7, the owner of a 2018 kensington motorhome on a fiat ducato had booked his van in for a mot today, and was told it was now a class 7

 

[wildebus]

My mate just messaged me to say they are now a class 7, the owner of a 2018 kensington motorhome on a fiat ducato had booked his van in for a mot today, and was told it was now a class 7

I have to assume he has been informed incorrectly. MOT Testers get it wrong as well.

 

[mark61]

Still class 4 on .gov.

 

[Robmac]

Hmm, confusing?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-testing-guide/a-introduction (updated November 2024)

2.3 Motor caravans​

A motor caravan is “a motor vehicle (not being a living van) which is constructed or adapted for the carriage of passengers and their effects and which contains, as permanently installed equipment, the facilities which are reasonably necessary for enabling the vehicle to provide mobile living accommodation for its users”.

Motor caravans are not classed as goods vehicles for MOT test purposes and are therefore in class 4 or 5 depending on their seating capacity but regardless of their size or weight.

 

[wildebus]

Hmm, confusing?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-testing-guide/a-introduction (updated November 2024)

2.3 Motor caravans​

A motor caravan is “a motor vehicle (not being a living van) which is constructed or adapted for the carriage of passengers and their effects and which contains, as permanently installed equipment, the facilities which are reasonably necessary for enabling the vehicle to provide mobile living accommodation for its users”.

Motor caravans are not classed as goods vehicles for MOT test purposes and are therefore in class 4 or 5 depending on their seating capacity but regardless of their size or weight.

not really. ever seen a "class 5" motorhome? i.e. one with more than 13 seats?

 

[Robmac]

not really. ever seen a "class 5" motorhome? i.e. one with more than 13 seats?

No I meant the conflicting views are confusing David the .gov site seems quite clear.

As you say though, MOT testers can get it wrong as well.

 

[colinm]

My mate just messaged me to say they are now a class 7, the owner of a 2018 kensington motorhome on a fiat ducato had booked his van in for a mot today, and was told it was now a class 7

Last Friday my van was tested as a class 4 at local council MOT testing station, the tester whom I'd never seen there before walked up to me and said "I assume that's to be tested as a class 4", nobodies ever asked me before and I had naively assumed it would come up on screen for MOT.

 

[wildebus]

Last Friday my van was tested as a class 4 at local council MOT testing station, the tester whom I'd never seen there before walked up to me and said "I assume that's to be tested as a class 4", nobodies ever asked me before and I had naively assumed it would come up on screen for MOT.

Depends what it looks like - literally. The MOT tester determines from how the vehicle is presented how it - and what - should be tested and no info from DLVA is used.
If it looks like a motor caravan, it is tested as one. If you have a 5 seater car and the rear seats are folded down, the rear belts aren't tested.

 

[mistericeman]

If you have a 5 seater car and the rear seats are folded down, the rear belts aren't tested.

Nope ....

 

[wildebus]

Nope ....

View attachment 141330

What if the seats are not in the vehicle then? (for example, on my old RAV4s, you can remove the rear seats entirely to make more room.
And on a Camper with a rock and roll bed, if the seat is down, the tester doesn't lift it to check the belts if they see belts fitted.
on my old Nissan Qashqai, every MOT after I sold it had a note saying "rear belts not tested due to child seat blocking access" or words to that effect.
I guess the key is in the words you posts ...." you CAN refuse..." and not "you MUST refuse". and "you not not have to do this ..."
Testers don't move or change things to test - the vehicle is tested as presented.

 

[Wully]

Just booked our van in for its MOT today 5 tones class 4 but the garage has to have the ramp and capacity to do a class 7 MOT because of size and weight.

 

[Wooie1958]

4

 

[mistericeman]

What if the seats are not in the vehicle then? (for example, on my old RAV4s, you can remove the rear seats entirely to make more room.
And on a Camper with a rock and roll bed, if the seat is down, the tester doesn't lift it to check the belts if they see belts fitted.
on my old Nissan Qashqai, every MOT after I sold it had a note saying "rear belts not tested due to child seat blocking access" or words to that effect.
I guess the key is in the words you posts ...." you CAN refuse..." and not "you MUST refuse". and "you not not have to do this ..."
Testers don't move or change things to test - the vehicle is tested as presented.

Belts for removed seats are not required to be tested .

Child seats fitted are covered by this bit ...

Rock and roll beds are covered from memory by not being inspected IF they are in bed form

In seat form the belts WILL be tested .

The refusal for testing regarding folded seats is covered in part D .....

 

[Pudsey Bear]

At least the thread is titled correctly

 

[wildebus]

Belts for removed seats are not required to be tested .

View attachment 141337View attachment 141337

Child seats fitted are covered by this bit ...


View attachment 141338

Rock and roll beds are covered from memory by not being inspected IF they are in bed form

In seat form the belts WILL be tested .

The refusal for testing regarding folded seats is covered in part D .....

View attachment 141340

View attachment 141341

got eyesight issues?

 

[BOTCANU]

Definitely C4 test irrespective of weight. You can have a double decker bus as a C4 as long as it fulfils the requirements for a motorhome. Horseboxes and motorsport vehicles that have living accommodation and are capable of carrying a load ( horses / car/ motorcycles etc) will fall under HGV test . Don’t ask me what I do for a job but it involves “policing” the MOT garages

 

[gasgas]

I have to assume he has been informed incorrectly. MOT Testers get it wrong as well.

They certainly do. I had a Volvo with an intermittent message on the display: "Anti Skid service required". Leaving aside the temptation to prevent skidding by oiling the brakes, I went to the MOT place where I always went for all my 5 vehicles and asked the guy if it would fail if the message came up in the test. He looked through all the reasons on the gov web site and said no, provided none of the 'warning' lights come on. I duly booked it in for the test. I had renewed all the discs, calipers, pads, shoes, hoses and fluid. It passed all the tests. The OTHER tester failed it and I remonstrated with him. Either his test equipment was faulty, or it should pass if the brake test passes. He said "No, I have failed it because it MIGHT be a fault". I personally know the MOT chief examiner for east midlands, who tests candidates, runs training courses, writes training books on the tests and certifies test centres. He said they should have passed it. I took it to a garage where he plugged in his Daignostic Computer That Is Always Right And At All Times Must Be Obeyed and it said the ABS pump was faulty. A new pump is £1000 or I can have it fixed for £500. I was fed up with it so I sold the car to him for £1000 less than it would have been worth with a years MOT. Later I went back to the garage and asked what happened to the Volvo his mate bought. He said "oh it was only a £50 sensor, it wouldn't have affected the brakes".
So as a result I won't be going back to that MOT test place, and I have a car with no computers. And a motorhome with no computers. Are you surprised?