identifying a good spot to park at overnight, and avoiding bad places .. your ideas

your opinions on the following please ?
- motorway service stations
- industrial/business parks
- car parks of churches/pubs/schools/universities/airports
- ports
- quiet cul-de-sac's/crescents in residential neighbourhoods ?
- other places

Bear in mind that churches do need their carparks for worshippers and, often, people using their halls for playgroups etc.....a quick phonecall to the number on the noticeboard is a good idea.
Still remember one MH who parked in the centre of a vast and empty church carpark on Lewis and woke up surounded by several hundred cars, it was Communion Week and his stay was a very long one!
 
North Wales, not warm welcome.

Having posted for ages, so here goes. We have been touring around North Wales for the past 9 days, wilding and a couple small CL sites for water, toilet, showers etc. Not had any problems at all apart from one incident that in hindsight wish I had dealt with in a better way. We were in a public carpark at Borth-y-gest Porthmadog at about 7pm with my family having a cup of tea, a couple knocked on the M/H door and advised me that I could not park in the carpark overnight, which is ok as it had signs clearly stating no overnight parking, I wasnt even intending parking anyway, but what made me angry was the fact that they said locals ! put stickers on your windows in the early hours of the morning and they were impossible to remove, now I dont know if its true or not, but the couple were not very friendly, it was more of a threat, I simply packed up and off we went, but I did have the feeling that I was being bullied off ! My main point is, whats wrong with people ? if a M/H parked near my home I wouldnt be knocking on the door. Our country is so backward when it comes to making us M/H owners welcome, what with height barriers etc etc, we really do feel like we are not wanted, I had another situation where I asked a parking officer where I could park my M/H ? his reply was as far away as possible. We spend thousands on our hobby and put a great deal of money back in to the country, Im not asking for much really, am I ? Rant over.

Tom
 
If you get stuck, ask a policeman......................if you can find one, seriously, ask a figure in authority, a policeman, or parking attendant if approached in the right way, can be really helpful. At least if they suggest somewhere, you can be sure that it will be ok. Personally, we tend to look for a well-lit place, with easy route for getaway if necessary, and don't park where someone MIGHT be offended, remember if you upset someone inadvertantly, they will ring the police who have to investigate, leading to the dreaded knock on the door.
Use your head, if it feels wrong for whatever reason, then move on, trust your intuition, even if it is an ok place, you probably won't sleep anyway!
 
Rural church carparks are good, get up early on Sunday mornings though:lol-053:

Here is a lovely one I stay at when visiting the Malvern M/H show. 013.jpg014.jpg016.jpg

St James Colwall nr. Malvern

John
 
Motorway service stations - 2 hour parking limit at most of them, which is difficult for them to actually enforce via implied contract in civil law, but why bother with the hassle?

Industrial/business parks - Good at weekends when not busy, but watch out for controlled parking signs, caveat as above

Car parks of churches/pubs/schools/universities/airports - If clearly no parking restrictions. plenty of space, and not obstructing bone fide users then fine. Pubs you are usually obliged morally or by condition to eat and drink there. Schools I would not do (nanny state/predator/child abuse hysteria etc). Universities often have parking congestion and restriction, see point 1. Airports, forget it, unless you want to pay rip-off parking charges, you may as well use a campsite.

Ports - Never tried it, but noisy if you are talking about docks...find a quiet place in town

Quiet cul-de-sac's/crescents in residential neighbourhoods - The best so far but not directly in front of some stupid NIMBY's house. Far better to find a place outside someone's long, high, back garden fence or wall. Exception... if the street is commonly chock full of parking and you adopt a stealth approach, but if it's usually parked nose to tail, then it's not "quiet".

Other places - The best urban place is on a quiet tree lined street outside a long fence or wall that is the boundary to the grounds of some large school, residential home, park, public buildings etc etc. There is nobody to complain or overlook you, just the trees and grass, and in any case there is a fence or trees to shield you. In this instance a school is OK as you are not actually in the school car park, just on a street near it. The best type of schools are private ones with extensive grounds. This type of location is infinitely better than a supermarket car park where you may be approached, or need to keep on asking if it is OK, or feel obliged to patronise the venue, be it a shop or a pub.
 
Can only advise on Europe not here - I wouldn't wild camp in England, not worth the hassle. France, Spain etc is a dream by contrast (or they used to be at least).

Don't leave it too late to start looking and NEVER pick a spot after dark, go to a site instead, or a layby with other vehicles as a last resort.

Get off main roads.

Investigate woods (ideally forest parks/picnic sites), river crossings and lakes on the map, these usually have parking areas nearby. Coasts usually have far more choice than inland, so hug the coast if convenient. Stay away from town centres and heavily populated areas.

Important: If you're not sure - move on. Oh and wherever you choose sods law says the next place down the road would have been 100% better! :have fun:
 
Just had a look at this spot on Streetview - there's a notice at the entrance that's hard to make out, but it might be a 'no overnighting' type sign ...

The notice on the railings by he church gate says: "neighbourhood watch area" the little one just to right (not quite visible) says: "reserved disabled vehicles". The small blue sign at the right of the entrance, the one I think you're referring too simply says: "St James Carpark" There are no prohibiting signs to worry about.

The few locals I spoke are very friendly, the flower arrangers arrive before 7.45am on Sunday's and they did give a quizzical look at first, like most isolated churches theft of lead has been a problem. Still, an old and interesting church worth a look if your into that sort of thing. Across the road is an Elizabethan manor house and barn conversion done by Mark Evans (the vet) featured on TV.:cool1:


I have another church in Tintagel Cornwall here Though there are so many offical places to park in Tintagel town I seldom use this one now. Note the carpark is National Trust and does have a "no camping sign" but the bit of a pull in outside the church and what looks like a bus shelter is not part of the carpark and OK. Another place close by the Youth Hostel too.

John

John
 
Thanks for the additional info - I've added the car park at Colwall ...

Regards

Chris
 
Yes I did - I had the NT car park listed already ... so I've adjusted the coordinates slightly to match your description of the parking just outside the church.

Thanks :)
 

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