Flytipping menaces

[maureenandtom]

I’m pretty sure the vast amount of fly tipping and general littering around the U.K. is done by normal members of the public, it’s just that some of the travelling community become scapegoats for every pile of rubbish tipped because it’s easier to blame a small selection of the community than admit to “normal” people doing it.

Councils, often with our connivance, use the same reason to ban motorhomes. We are motorhomers so we must leave our waste on the streets. Obvious, innit. I'd like to know what council our District Councillor served on. I think some of his local legislation might now be challengeable.

 

[witzend]

Pick ups & Vans being banned from our local recycling centres & the price charged to dispose of broken concrete there as added to the amount of fly tipping in our area

 

[trevskoda]

Many fly by night builders here just dump up some mountain road because council tip charge £35 a load if you arrive in a van,a builder living behind me brings it home and fills a car trailer which he takes to the dump with his car ,no charge.

 

[n brown]

people who do this astound me . they'll drive miles into the country to dump a mattress, when the dump will take it for free . in France and Portugal you can chuck anything in or by the public bins , but there's always someone who can't be arsed and would rather dump in a layby or field entrance . i detest these people

 

[Fazerloz]

Kirklees list of things they will no longer accept at the tip is much longer than what they will accept. Rubble been one of them as they say too many builders were coming to dump using trailers so instead of sorting that particular problem they just sopped accepting any rubble from anyone. Does that sound like a sort of solution to other things.
It's not surprising fly tipping is on the increase we nearly had as much rubbish when we returned home as when we set off. So even people who want to do the right thing are turned away from the tip and they wonder why it's on the increase.

 

[Fazerloz]

I’m pretty sure the vast amount of fly tipping and general littering around the U.K. is done by normal members of the public, it’s just that some of the travelling community become scapegoats for every pile of rubbish tipped because it’s easier to blame a small selection of the community than admit to “normal” people doing it.

Are you sure you were a policeman. You sound far too reasonable.

 

[davef]

Whenever I've had an accident, usually the first thought is "how could I be so stupid"....followed by heart in mouth checking extent of the injury.
Many years ago I tried to light a Rayburn cooker with damp wood - it failed to light, so I poured on some paraffin and put a match to it. I was blown across the room - as was the cat. My hair was rather frazzled and the cat lost its whiskers. Moral of the story is that safe lighting liquids become explosive if poured onto something hot so they evaporate into an explosive gas..
I find old engine oil, which I usually have too much of, is excellent for getting reluctant fires going.

 

[harrow]

Many fly by night builders here just dump up some mountain road because council tip charge £35 a load if you arrive in a van,a builder living behind me brings it home and fills a car trailer which he takes to the dump with his car ,no charge.

Harrow If you are a company that wants to dispose of waste, or if you are disposing waste using a van, you will incur charges to dispose of your waste.

General Waste (£275 a tonne)

Minimum charge £95

Trade Mattresses

£20 each

 

[Robmac]

I often use old petrol to get a fire going. I usually start the fire with a small flame and then throw a cupful of petrol over it from a yard or so away. This works fine as long as the main petrol container is kept well away and the lid is replaced before starting the fire. I don't see a problem with this method if using small amounts of petrol.

I use a dustbin type incinerator, the only time I had a problem with this was a few weeks back when I chucked a cup of petrol in and it didn't ignite, obviously the small flame had already gone out. This allowed the petrol to vapourise inside the incinerator so when I did light it (with a burning rag on a pole) then it did go with a bang, but I was expecting it and no harm done.

 

[colinm]

I often use old petrol to get a fire going. I usually start the fire with a small flame and then throw a cupful of petrol over it from a yard or so away. This works fine as long as the main petrol container is kept well away and the lid is replaced before starting the fire. I don't see a problem with this method if using small amounts of petrol.

I use a dustbin type incinerator, the only time I had a problem with this was a few weeks back when I chucked a cup of petrol in and it didn't ignite, obviously the small flame had already gone out. This allowed the petrol to vapourise inside the incinerator so when I did light it (with a burning rag on a pole) then it did go with a bang, but I was expecting it and no harm done.

I'll repeat this once more NEVER TRY AND LIGHT A FIRE WITH PETROL. I've seen someone doing what you do, a trail of petrol in mid air caught light straight back to the cup (actually it was a old tin), no great damage was done, just minor burns to his hand.
btw My cousin had his 'party trick' on bonfire night, a bike pump full of petrol 'fired' at the bonfire, made a impressive flame thrower, one year he set himself alight.

 

[trevskoda]

when i were about 13 i was in a mates garage fixing my bsa bantam when another lad lite a fag,the jamjar of petrol on a bench about 6 feet away flash flamed across the garage and near burnt the face of the lad with a fag in his gob.

 

[wildebus]

Just took this photo of a forthcoming bonfire .... I suppose I should move my camper first?

 

[Robmac]

I'll repeat this once more NEVER TRY AND LIGHT A FIRE WITH PETROL. I've seen someone doing what you do, a trail of petrol in mid air caught light straight back to the cup (actually it was a old tin), no great damage was done, just minor burns to his hand.
btw My cousin had his 'party trick' on bonfire night, a bike pump full of petrol 'fired' at the bonfire, made a impressive flame thrower, one year he set himself alight.

I've done it hundreds of times and never come close to an accident - I am talking a small paper cupful of petrol, the petrol has left the cup before it gets to the fire. It's a risk I am prepared to take and I feel confident and comfortable doing so.

I have a surplus of old petrol at home which I wouldn't use in any of my equipment due to it's age (no I don't want to discuss using old petrol - that's been done!). It's very hard to get rid of petrol legally so I prefer to burn it rather than it sitting in the garage.

 

[wildebus]

I'll repeat this once more NEVER TRY AND LIGHT A FIRE WITH PETROL. I've seen someone doing what you do, a trail of petrol in mid air caught light straight back to the cup (actually it was a old tin), no great damage was done, just minor burns to his hand.
btw My cousin had his 'party trick' on bonfire night, a bike pump full of petrol 'fired' at the bonfire, made a impressive flame thrower, one year he set himself alight.

I wasn't planning on posting this picture, but just to reiterate what a rush of fire can end up doing to help people realise....
(this was a result of a pan fire that I dealt with correctly until right at the end when I lifted the towel on the pan slightly to check the fire was out - the fresh oxygen reignited it!)

 

[Snapster]

Are you sure you were a policeman. You sound far too reasonable.

I left in 1999, things were already going downhill fast.......

 

[n brown]

we all think we know what we're doing till we find out we don't .

 

[Robmac]

we all think we know what we're doing till we find out we don't .

You won't put me off Nigel. I use such a small amount of petrol it's probably no more dangerous than having a fire in the garden in the first place.

But I like fire!

 

[n brown]

You won't put me off Nigel. I use such a small amount of petrol it's probably no more dangerous than having a fire in the garden in the first place.

But I like fire!

oh i'm not trying to put you off , i'm a fire fan too ,as are all the kids. when we had the small holding ,my mate used to do house clearance and i'd let him dump his unwanted wooden furniture on the land. we used to ignite these massive piles of wardrobes etc by chucking petrol bombs at a handy rock . that and a few beers made for many a pleasant evening . i like burning a few pallets too

 

[Robmac]

oh i'm not trying to put you off , i'm a fire fan too ,as are all the kids. when we had the small holding ,my mate used to do house clearance and i'd let him dump his unwanted wooden furniture on the land. we used to ignite these massive piles of wardrobes etc by chucking petrol bombs at a handy rock . that and a few beers made for many a pleasant evening . i like burning a few pallets too

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I've got loads of garden rubbish at the moment due to replacing all of the fencing so have to get rid of all of the old fencing and all of the Ivy etc that was growing all over it.

Just bought a new incinerator actually but I don't expect it to last long. I probably need to make something a little more heavy duty.

 

[trevskoda]

Just to let you know,garden fires are not allowed and council can take you up on it,feck it get the matches out the 11 night is coming.