Spain Re-Opens for Tourists

[QFour]

It's in the Telegraph

Some interesting times ahead. Wonder what France will do.

 

[izwozral]

France has implemented a 14 day quarantine for British tourists.

 

[REC]

Are tourists more likely to have covid-19 than workers? Can't understand the concept of quarantine for a selected few....glad we came through before they bring it in.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

What about testing?

I just get more and more confused. Have I got the wrong end of the stick?
Thought that if you got tested for covid-19 and you were clear you could safely go about your business.
If that's true for 'frontline staff', why isn't it the same for everyone else?
Or is it just the lack of testing resources at key locations - like border points?

 

[jagmanx]

I suggest all the rules and regs re international travel will just get more and more complicated.
Even for essential travel let alone "holidays"
Go to www.confused.com for the best advice ?
Are you this that or the other
Where and how will you isolate
How will you manage the ongoing travel to your destination.
I think we as motorhomers know we are in a good situation re isolating
Not sure if the authorities (whether it be police immigration staff or Medical) will be aware enough

 

[mariesnowgoose]

Maybe I'm being way too simplistic, but isn't universal testing a possible solution down the line?

If it works within the boundaries of one country, couldn't it be applied internationally???

The only thing that might make it prohibitive would be cost and availability, but surely both of those things could be overcome given time?

 

[runnach]

Business or pleasure foreign travel is going to be awkward for the foreseeable future and require a concerted effort eg prepare to be quarantined . I don’t anticipate anything being close to what it was until next year

 

[jacquigem]

Yes and at the moment you would need to be quarantined on the way back

 

[Moped]

Assuming Spain does not impose a 14 day quarantine on U.K. arrivals, as soon as Brittany Ferries restart their service to Spain, take your motorhome to Spain for the summer or for an extended period. You may be able to enter France from Spain without restriction but who knows at this stage.

I would suggest that by the time you want to return to the UK the 14 day quarantine requirement will be suspended. But of course it may not be and it all blows up again.

Always assuming motorhome service facilities and campsites have reopened of course!

 

[moonshadow]

What about testing?

I just get more and more confused. Have I got the wrong end of the stick?
Thought that if you got tested for covid-19 and you were clear you could safely go about your business.
If that's true for 'frontline staff', why isn't it the same for everyone else?
Or is it just the lack of testing resources at key locations - like border points?

From what I understand testing is only good for the day you are tested, if you are clear doesn't mean you won't show symptoms a few days later - hence the quarantine

 

[mariesnowgoose]

From what I understand testing is only good for the day you are tested, if you are clear doesn't mean you won't show symptoms a few days later - hence the quarantine

So exactly when do they test front-line staff? Is it only when they are showing symptoms and the rest of the time they are presumed to be virus-free? Because if so, then the same rule applies everywhere? I thought if frontline staff tested clear they could carry on working. I am still confused!

 

[Deleted member 9237]

But remember some parts of Spain it's compulsory to have a face mask on if you are walking around the town, on the spot fine if you have not got one on. Blinking mad house in some places over here

 

[antiquesam]

I'm thinking of starting a campaign to ban all ferries on the Portsmouth to Spain route in order to maintain the pollution at current levels. The route carries very little freight as it's quicker and cheaper to drive it through France. Virtually all the revenue goes to the French owners and the benefits mostly favour the Spanish economy as most of the trade is tourists going to spend there.
Well we're all allowed to dream.

 

[r4dent]

I'm thinking of starting a campaign to ban all ferries on the Portsmouth to Spain route in order to maintain the pollution at current levels.

Good idea, provided we ban non electric vehicles on the France.

I much prefer the BF to driving through France. Last year I had to drive back through France after my wife was medevaced from the Ferry and admitted to hospital. Awful drive we hated it.

Still each to their own.

 

[antiquesam]

My reason for not wanting the ferries is the horrible smell of their exhaust fumes as they enter and sit in Portsmouth harbour linked to my general dislike of the fact that Brittany Ferries have a monopoly on the western channel and can charge what they like. I should say in my working life before retirement I probably spent more nights on their ferries than I did in my own bed.

 

[moonshadow]

So exactly when do they test front-line staff? Is it only when they are showing symptoms and the rest of the time they are presumed to be virus-free? Because if so, then the same rule applies everywhere? I thought if frontline staff tested clear they could carry on working. I am still confused!

I think if front line staff have symptoms they are checking to see if it's coronovirus, if it's not and they are well enough they go back to work. Otherwise the would be too many off with 'man flu' thinking it's coronovirus

 

[Snapster]

We are being told in France that we should holiday here in the summer and not leave the country. Of course, all that could change, but I am sure that all campsites, aires, restaurants bars and hotels must be open, unrestricted travel must be in place and Covid cases must be well under control in our home countries before borders are opened for holidays.
At the moment, they aren’t, we’ll just have to wait and see.

 

[jagmanx]

Update 26th May from BBC

Spain says foreign visitors will no longer have to undergo a two-week quarantine from 1 July

 

[tidewatcher]

My reason for not wanting the ferries is the horrible smell of their exhaust fumes as they enter and sit in Portsmouth harbour linked to my general dislike of the fact that Brittany Ferries have a monopoly on the western channel and can charge what they like. I should say in my working life before retirement I probably spent more nights on their ferries than I did in my own bed.

At present the ferries are conventional but they have invested heavily and their new ferries are to run on LPG and will be amongst the greenest on the cross channel run. As for the cost as I live in the West Country just add the cost, and time, of travelling to Dover and then back to our favourite area on the west coast of France to the Dover ferry cost and it isn’t far off the same. I have no connection with the company but they suit my requirements and having joined their regular travel club I find them as reasonable as any. However at present all of this talk of France and ferries is making me go into memories and gloomy mode again.....

 

[2cv]

At present the ferries are conventional but they have invested heavily and their new ferries are to run on LPG and will be amongst the greenest on the cross channel run. As for the cost as I live in the West Country just add the cost, and time, of travelling to Dover and then back to our favourite area on the west coast of France to the Dover ferry cost and it isn’t far off the same. I have no connection with the company but they suit my requirements and having joined their regular travel club I find them as reasonable as any. However at present all of this talk of France and ferries is making me go into memories and gloomy mode again.....

Don’t get too excited about lpg ferries. This one is still rusting away at Port Glasgow having never been made to work, its sister ship rusting away half finished. £150m wasted.