Advice on scooter loading and unloading from motorhome garage

[Talbot]

Just wondering what systems people are using and would recommend to load and unload a scooter from a garage. I know fiamma do a rack and integrated ramp but someone told me that the height of the rack when fitted to the floor of the garage makes it difficult to get the handlebars through the door. Any advice??

 

[hextal]

There's the always entertaining "hold my beer, and watch this" method.

 

[trevskoda]

If you mean a two wheel scooter,then you are not legal to carry in the garage,on the back yes.
If you intend keeping it in the garage then you must re reg as a living van,exception is a mobilty scooter.

 

[SquirrellCook]

I don’t know about NI but if it’s registered PLG or PHGV then you can carry what you like as long as it’s yours and you don’t intend to sell it.

 

[trevskoda]

I don’t know about NI but if it’s registered PLG or PHGV then you can carry what you like as long as it’s yours and you don’t intend to sell it.

Its the same in england,but as you say if not reg as a motor caravan then you can do as you wish.

 

[Drover]

What do you mean "rack on the floor"
I have eye bolts on my floor to secure it with straps ,scooter sits on the floor.
You wont know until you try it. If fitting 2 in there one might go forwards and the other backwards... gonna need the mirrors off though .
Not used now as it's full of junk ....must sort it out

 

[hextal]

Any idea what the capacity of the bolt connections are? One of those things where it may well be more than up to it, or the manufacturer may have bolted through something weedy.

 

[Nabsim]

I don’t know about NI but if it’s registered PLG or PHGV then you can carry what you like as long as it’s yours and you don’t intend to sell it.

Mine is PHGV and I noticed the following for the first time on the vehicle tax reminder:

This vehicle needs a MOT certificate or, if the user is carrying goods/burden not needed by the user for accommodation purposes on the vehicle, a goods vehicle test certificate.

Cant say I have noticed this before but it may just be me being blind. It is all typed in caps at the top. It doesn’t mention inside or outside just as I have typed above. Guess it means something

 

[Talbot]

I don't mean how do you secure it once it's in. My question is what ramp are people using to get it in and out again. For example this ramp

Fiamma Carry-Moto Motorbike Carrier

 

[Nabsim]

I don't mean how do you secure it once it's in. My question is what ramp are people using to get it in and out again. For example this ramp

Fiamma Carry-Moto Motorbike Carrier

Can you not put it on it’s stand then secure with ratchet straps? I have seen scooter in garages on their side stands then just wedged to stop them moving. Suppose it depends how much stuff you have in your garage though

 

[SquirrellCook]

This vehicle needs a MOT certificate or, if the user is carrying goods/burden not needed by the user for accommodation purposes on the vehicle, a goods vehicle test certificate.

That's horrible. Was you vehicle originally a goods vehicle with a plating certificate? When I tried to get my LHE Mercedes 811D Coach tested by DVSA they said it was Class 4 and they did not test Class 4 vehicles.

 

[SquirrellCook]

Its the same in england,but as you say if not reg as a motor caravan then you can do as you wish.

I can't remember where it is now, but in one of the government documents it states that the "Body type does not define what it is being used for."
Motorhomes over 3.5tonnes should be Class M1(specialist vehicle motorhome) The danger with this is the Road Tax duty may be placed in line with cars

 

[trevskoda]

No the law clearly says if reg as a motorcaravan/campervan then you cannot carry goods not ass with camping,ie awning or seats etc,a scooter is a no way,one chap has been pulled and fined,they may be others,anyone getting renewal tax forms will see the changes.
If you want to carry a scooter inside then you must change to a living van,folk can get there feathers up but the law is the law.

 

[SquirrellCook]

reg as a motorcaravan/campervan

There is no such thing Trev. The only thing that refers is body type (in other words, what it looks like) The only thing you could be prosecuted is on the use of a PHGV. Read up on that. Depending on interpretation, you can't do anything with it other that just drive it.. Even a Bus/Coach is not taxed if the passengers don't pay a fair!

 

[FULL TIMER]

Mine is PHGV and I noticed the following for the first time on the vehicle tax reminder:

This vehicle needs a MOT certificate or, if the user is carrying goods/burden not needed by the user for accommodation purposes on the vehicle, a goods vehicle test certificate.

Cant say I have noticed this before but it may just be me being blind. It is all typed in caps at the top. It doesn’t mention inside or outside just as I have typed above. Guess it means something

At least they are making it clear now, it used to be if there was a specific space to carry goods / burden which was probably why I was asked if I had a garage area when I changed the body type / tax class etc on mine, I didn't so class 4 mot instead of plating , sounds good to me, apart from the fact that garage space seems a big area to waste on storing mainly crap in most cases

 

[SquirrellCook]

big area to waste on storing mainly crap in most cases

I guess you'd have to be careful on the crap you carry, if it must be in connection with your living in the vehicle.
If you still have it's original plating certificate, apart from having to book a DVSA test months in advance id rather have one. At least it would be professional checked.

 

[Nabsim]

That's horrible. Was you vehicle originally a goods vehicle with a plating certificate? When I tried to get my LHE Mercedes 811D Coach tested by DVSA they said it was Class 4 and they did not test Class 4 vehicles.

Mine is a low level coach built motorhome, tax class Private HGV. It’s based on a 316 Sprinter chassis cab and has been upgraded to 4 tonne. I have just taxed it again and that’s why I remembered. I have no idea if they would actually say/do anything if you carry a motorbike or scooter though for personal use, it dies the give any more detail or I would take a pic of the reminder and post it

 

[Nabsim]

@SquirrellCook this is my van

 

[tjrorchard]

hi like others I take off mirrors mine have ac= compression fitting so only unpinch and pull out very quick and easy. as for the ramp I have made one from an alliminiumum ladder with checker plate on and angled the ends and cut a fitting into top end that fits over lip to door . everyone who sees loves it maybe I should start to make to sell ??

 

[FULL TIMER]

I guess you'd have to be careful on the crap you carry, if it must be in connection with your living in the vehicle.
If you still have it's original plating certificate, apart from having to book a DVSA test months in advance id rather have one. At least it would be professional checked.

mines a 7.5 ton Eurocargo based conversion so still has to go to the same test stations as you use due to its physical size etc so it is still checked by profesional testers as is any other vehicle regardless of what test is needed.