Would this be legal ?

[yeoblade]

Saw this parked and it looked a tad overweight on the back axle?
I bet one of the brains on here could do quick calc on it

 

[merl]

Just a guess but I doubt it. Looks mighty light comparatively at the front end Probably completely oblivious to axle weight regs
Not Barry is it?

 

[Pudsey Bear]

Looking at the side valance/skirt, I would say not, it looks lower at the front than the back, and Fiats are lower at the front anyway

 

[molly 2]

Could have air suspension on the rear

 

[RichardHelen262]

I would say not on two counts firstly it looks overweight on the rear axel.
Secondly it has more than 60% of the wheel base overhang

 

[Robmac]

I would say not on two counts firstly it looks overweight on the rear axel.
Secondly it has more than 60% of the wheel base overhang

I see what you mean Richard. It is a long body on what looks like a SWB.

 

[yeoblade]

Don't think power steering would be needed on that setup . But perhaps some anti-wheely bars.

 

[barryd]

Yeah that don't look right.

Having said that the bike is a Kawasaki KLX 250 trail bike so only 138kg. Not a light bike for a motorhome rack though and certainly not that one I would think when you add in the distance from the centre of the rear axle and probably 40kg of Rack etc. Van will probably pull as good a wheelie as the bike! I could manage one on the back of mine I would think. Just not practical though.

 

[r4dent]

Yeah that don't look right.

Having said that the bike is a Kawasaki KLX 250 trail bike so only 138kg. Not a light bike for a motorhome rack though and certainly not that one I would think when you add in the distance from the centre of the rear axle and probably 40kg of Rack etc. Van will probably pull as good a wheelie as the bike! I could manage one on the back of mine I would think. Just not practical though.

Without getting a measure out and doing the math and using the above figures, I estimate that the bike and rack would
a) Reduce the payload by 278 kg. So (unless the users are teetotal nudists on a fasting diet who never wash) I think the vehicle will be overweight.
b) Add about 400kg to the rear axle load, and exceed the limit.
c) Reduce the front axle load by 120kg making traction & steering interesting to say the least.

 

[barryd]

Without getting a measure out and doing the math and using the above figures, I estimate that the bike and rack would
a) Reduce the payload by 278 kg. So (unless the users are teetotal nudists on a fasting diet who never wash) I think the vehicle will be overweight.
b) Add about 400kg to the rear axle load, and exceed the limit.
c) Reduce the front axle load by 120kg making traction & steering interesting to say the least.

You might not be far out. When I put my first rack on my old Kontiki the rack was about 30kg and the bike 95kg and after doing the maths it added about 300kg. Just within the limits. That was a long wheel base Alko chassis though. That van is very short. I never noticed any difference to handling but I loaded up the luton to compensate. My pal dear old Tuggers (RIP) did on his Bessacarr though. Again a shorter van but he definately noticed a difference on the front wheel handling and that was just with a Honda vision on the back. On our new van 8.5 metres 4.25t there is no difference at all with the bike on or off.

 

[yeoblade]

Without getting a measure out and doing the math and using the above figures, I estimate that the bike and rack would
a) Reduce the payload by 278 kg. So (unless the users are teetotal nudists on a fasting diet who never wash) I think the vehicle will be overweight.
b) Add about 400kg to the rear axle load, and exceed the limit.
c) Reduce the front axle load by 120kg making traction & steering interesting to say the least.

Thank you @r4dent , new someone would raise to the challenge

 

[barryd]

You can't have enough ratchet straps apparently. This was a guy I was conversing with on the Motorhomers with bikes group on FB yesterday. Better be safe than sorry I think he said. He seemed a bit flabbergasted when I showed him mine with just two. I dont suppose he will mind me posting it. I blacked out his reg (although he never did on FB)

 

[r4dent]

You can't have enough ratchet straps apparently.

Bike 150 kg
Rack 40 kg
Straps 75kg

 

[RichardHelen262]

You can't have enough ratchet straps apparently. This was a guy I was conversing with on the Motorhomers with bikes group on FB yesterday. Better be safe than sorry I think he said. He seemed a bit flabbergasted when I showed him mine with just two. I dont suppose he will mind me posting it. I blacked out his reg (although he never did on FB)View attachment 140688
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I would trust your two straps more than his 700 straps, the way he has put those straps on most of them aren’t doing anything,

 

[Robmac]

You can't have enough ratchet straps apparently. This was a guy I was conversing with on the Motorhomers with bikes group on FB yesterday. Better be safe than sorry I think he said. He seemed a bit flabbergasted when I showed him mine with just two. I dont suppose he will mind me posting it. I blacked out his reg (although he never did on FB)View attachment 140688
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You missed blacking out the reg at the top of his van Barry.

 

[oppy]

Math ????? MATHS

 

[izwozral]

I bought a huge collection of vinyl LP's, [well over a 1500], from a seller on Ebay, this was when I had the Rimor so it was around 2013. I didn't give the weight much thought tbh, I put them all in the MH garage.
I drove from Cambridge to Lymm in Cheshire and I very nearly lost it when overtaking a HGV. The MH started to fishtail badly, to this day I don't know how I got it under control, I was working on instinct, miraculously it worked.
The following week I decided to take the MH to a weighbridge, I can't remember the figures now but the Rimor had probably the worse carrying capacity of any MH around. I must have been grossly overloaded.

 

[barryd]

You missed blacking out the reg at the top of his van Barry.

Eh? Where?

 

[Wully]

Looks fine to me could get another Harley on there. I’d hate for any you lot to see my works truck on a Friday afternoon on my way to the tip.

 

[Robmac]

Eh? Where?

You didn't really Barry. I thought it might keep you entertained for a while looking though.