Why are UK campsites so expensive?

spartacus

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Although still a newbie to the world of motorhoming, six months and counting, We're fulltiming so the learning curve has been quite steep. We've done a combination of aires in Europe, sites and wildcamping in the UK. Over here we generally favour CL/CS type sites, both for cost and the fact we prefer the quieter side of life when camping. We are cuurently looking for a site to settle on for the winter, five months in total, and are running all over the place trying different sites to find one that suits location wise and financially.

Most sites seem to want around £10 per night as a minimum with some charging separately for electricity. Club, and some commercial sites would of course want much more than this. What I am surprised about is that none are prepared to offer a long term deal for a long stay ie monthly rates or a fixed price for the whole five months. Seemingly they would prefer the pitch empty than get, say, £1,000 up front for the whole five months. And for this they would be providing a small plot of land with water, CDP and electricity - so no major infrastructure requirements.

Coming from a boating background I have compared this to berthing a boat in a south coast (Solent area) marina (the most expensive in Europe) which typically would charge around £400 per metre per year. So our motorhome being 7.2 metres long would cost £2,880 for the year. For this we would get a nice pontoon berth, secure gated access, immacculate heated toilet/shower/laundry block. CCTV and on-site security and a clubhouse with a bar. Think how much that lot costs to install and run compared to a field with a tap and a manhole cover and some cables coming out of a barn for which they want £3,600 a year.

Also consider the cost of land, campsites are generally on cheap land in the back of beyond, marinas are more likely in or near to prime waterside real estate.

So why so expensive to park/site our motorhomes :confused:
 
Try the Caravan Club, They at this time of year will give you a deal for four or Five months, electricity included normally depends upon location.

You will be on a site with a shower block and normally a laundry.

You may have to play a bit daft and not let on you are fulltimers ..I am sure you know the gig .

I full time and use two sites up North, It has never been actually mentioned the wardens turn a blind eye.

They know I am full timing, but I never give them a problem, so they are quite happy to accomodate me and be cursory in terms of paperwork etc.

Channa
 
Currently on Lower Polladras site near Helston in Cornwall. In the winter they do a £59 per week deal - I'm not sure how long you are allowed to stay but there are plenty of places.

Just spent three weeks at Tregarton Park, Mevagissey for £5 per night - brilliant showers! - but they close at the end of October.

There are some deals if you search on the net - but we found both of these from the Caravan Club.
 
If someone runs small site like a CL, even though the upkeep may be minimal, there is still paperwork involved and maintenance to be done which takes time. For example, booking people in and out, phonecalls, renewal of licenses, H+S certification, cleaning, insurances, fire policy/equipment, accounts etc. This all takes time and I wouldn't have thought it is worth anyone's while taking on this commitment for anything less than about £7-8 per unit per night.

The smaller the site, the greater the overheads per customer. This is why a small site may appear expensive compared to somewhere like a large marina or moorings where the overheads can be spread over a greater number of customers.
 
If someone runs small site like a CL, even though the upkeep may be minimal, there is still paperwork involved and maintenance to be done which takes time. For example, booking people in and out, phonecalls, renewal of licenses, H+S certification, cleaning, insurances, fire policy/equipment, accounts etc. This all takes time and I wouldn't have thought it is worth anyone's while taking on this commitment for anything less than about £7-8 per unit per night.

The smaller the site, the greater the overheads per customer. This is why a small site may appear expensive compared to somewhere like a large marina or moorings where the overheads can be spread over a greater number of customers.

synopsis spot on...:cool:

called into a c&cc CS in the lakes earlier this year... 2 nights 16 squid :eek:
over the top i thought... :confused:

after some commercial discussions with the site owner it transpired that
he's only had a handful of customers all year... and his costs were horrendous... :eek:
so he will be one less site next year:( ...
1 double hook up point/water and a working loo... showers not finished uneven ground ..difficult access.... nice spot... shame about the site management :rolleyes:

regards ;)
aj

.. it does surprise me that 3-4-5-6 month winter deals are not 10 a penny:(
... it makes commercial sense that they should be ;)
 
synopsis spot on...:cool:

called into a c&cc CS in the lakes earlier this year... 2 nights 16 squid :eek:
over the top i thought... :confused:

after some commercial discussions with the site owner it transpired that
he's only had a handful of customers all year... and his costs were horrendous... :eek:
so he will be one less site next year:( ...
1 double hook up point/water and a working loo... showers not finished uneven ground ..difficult access.... nice spot... shame about the site management :rolleyes:

regards ;)
aj

.. it does surprise me that 3-4-5-6 month winter deals are not 10 a penny:([/I]
... it makes commercial sense that they should be ;)

I agree with both AJ and Firefox.

A little bit of something is better than 100 percent of nowt !..Overhead absorbtion and all the rest of it, It does seem surprising that we dont see more of the 3 month deals etc.

Perhaps something to do with the 28 day rule, But I'm sure I am not the first in commenting that on a lot of sites it is conveniently overlooked especially the CL type.

Channa
 
I agree with both AJ and Firefox.

A little bit of something is better than 100 percent of nowt !..Overhead absorbtion and all the rest of it, It does seem surprising that we dont see more of the 3 month deals etc.

Perhaps something to do with the 28 day rule, But I'm sure I am not the first in commenting that on a lot of sites it is conveniently overlooked especially the CL type.

Channa

Many people talk about the 21 or 28 day rule but whose rule is it? There are clearly many people living long-term on campsites/CLs but no-one in this country seems to officially offer long-stay deals (unlike on the continental mainland, where such deals are commonplace). Like you, I am mystified that more deals are not offered and cannot understand why - is there legislation and if so why? Also, how come it is only in this country that you can't officially stay long-term?
 
I have just got the CC monthly mag and it had a supplement of the new CL`s. Some of them are open all year and were offering weekly deals at a reduced price.
 
Horgabost on the Isle of Harris. £10 per night for tarmac and no facilities...the Portakabins were all locked up when I stopped by a couple of weeks ago to walk the dog.
Seemed to be more a fine than a charge!
 
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Many people talk about the 21 or 28 day rule but whose rule is it? There are clearly many people living long-term on campsites/CLs but no-one in this country seems to officially offer long-stay deals (unlike on the continental mainland, where such deals are commonplace). Like you, I am mystified that more deals are not offered and cannot understand why - is there legislation and if so why? Also, how come it is only in this country that you can't officially stay long-term?

I believe its usually to do with the planning laws and restrictions in place for the campsite. They need to be licenced differently to allow stays over a set number of days as its classed as residential after that. The number of days depends on the local authority.
 
Last night I stopped on a cc site, £7.20, including electrics and a warm shower block.

The previous evening I stopped on a cl £6.50 per night token meter for electric which gobbled £2.00...£.1.30 more expensive no shower and you use your own bathroom.

It leads me to think that the CC overall are trying, and if I consumed the same electric...they netted £5.20 and have heating costs of the shower block etc.

I dont think they are ' lifting legs' as they say

Channa

The couple running the site are real nice people etc
 
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Many people talk about the 21 or 28 day rule but whose rule is it? There are clearly many people living long-term on campsites/CLs but no-one in this country seems to officially offer long-stay deals (unlike on the continental mainland, where such deals are commonplace). Like you, I am mystified that more deals are not offered and cannot understand why - is there legislation and if so why? Also, how come it is only in this country that you can't officially stay long-term?

hi can you let me know which sites on the continent which have winter deals kevin,, new to all
 
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hi can you provide more info on continental sites providing winter deals kind regards, kevin newcommer
 
hi can you let me know which sites on the continent which have winter deals kevin,, new to all

Hi and welcome. You would need a book to list all of them, so the best thing to do is choose where you want to go and do an internet search for winter deals. Just to get you started, try Cabo de Gata in south-east Spain and Conil in south-west Spain - at both of these places you can get winter deals for two people on a pitch with EHU for around 10 euros a day or less. Happy travels
 

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