billi
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we carry a machette in our van for obvious reasons.BUT what is the law when u cross a border with a weapon.i think it will be worse when we cum back into england.can anyone clarify please.!!
Nosha
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Keep it somewhere out of the way and secure e.g. in the boot/ under bed locker/ in the main tool bag, then it's just a tool when collecting firewood and no worse than a big spanner or hammer.
It's just the same as carrying a shotgun in a case taking to the shop for repair - OK, walking down the high strret uncovered - offensive weapon! My karate weapons in a bag to and from the hall and house - OK, but uncovered and not a reasonable reason to carry them - offensive weapons!
It's just the same as carrying a shotgun in a case taking to the shop for repair - OK, walking down the high strret uncovered - offensive weapon! My karate weapons in a bag to and from the hall and house - OK, but uncovered and not a reasonable reason to carry them - offensive weapons!
Sparks
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I carry a machette, and a hand axe, and a bow saw, and one or two knives. All in the bottom of my large toolbox and not very easy to get at. I've been across European borders with them a few times, but not having been stopped that doesn't mean much.
I've carried a hand axe ever since a fallen tree blocked our path in a remote part of Italy. It took about an hour to clear the track, would have been much quicker with an axe etc.
I've carried a hand axe ever since a fallen tree blocked our path in a remote part of Italy. It took about an hour to clear the track, would have been much quicker with an axe etc.
Witchdoctor
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protection.
We got independently targeting
particle-beam phalanx. VWAP!
…Fry half a city with this puppy.
We got tactical smart-missiles,
Phased-plasma pulse-rifles,
RPG's. We got sonic electronic
ball breakers, we got nukes, we
got knives. Machetes...Baseball bats,
sharp sticks, harsh language......
We got independently targeting
particle-beam phalanx. VWAP!
…Fry half a city with this puppy.
We got tactical smart-missiles,
Phased-plasma pulse-rifles,
RPG's. We got sonic electronic
ball breakers, we got nukes, we
got knives. Machetes...Baseball bats,
sharp sticks, harsh language......
billi
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ta
thanks for the replies.was a little worried cumin bak to blighty with extra fags,booze+machette.i av NO worries about the illigal immigrants i will be carrying on my roof!!!!
thanks for the replies.was a little worried cumin bak to blighty with extra fags,booze+machette.i av NO worries about the illigal immigrants i will be carrying on my roof!!!!
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I took a Royal Navy Field Gun to the UN Base in Naples the other year. It was OK until I got to the Italian border, when they saw it pointing out of the back of the Merc Sprinter they got a little worried. It took a lot of sign language to explain that it no firing mechanism and the need for an armourer to called to examine it. Two months later I had to bring it back. I worried about that.:scared:
Sparks
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I suppose at a push you could use one of those for collecting firewood 
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Hit a possible assailant with a machete , baseball bat etc and claim scared and acted in self defence good chance you will be showering with strange men in a morning, a good prosecutor will paint a picture that your actions had a degree of pre meditation to which there is no defence.
Wrap a frying pan around their ear, Claim scared and acted in self defence first thing to hand etc >( contrary to general belief you can even belt them first and you still have a statutory defence).......far more plausible and a good chance you walk free.
Channa
Wrap a frying pan around their ear, Claim scared and acted in self defence first thing to hand etc >( contrary to general belief you can even belt them first and you still have a statutory defence).......far more plausible and a good chance you walk free.
Channa
sean rua
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Yes, channa,
I think that is generally true.
I always wonder about the breadknife; used to be found in most kitchens. An innocent, useful utensil, but not in a public place.
But what about in a sandwich bar?
Or the big knife in the local kebab shop?
I suppose context and location are important. I wouldn't feel too comfortable if some bggr came in the pub with any of the above clearly visible about his person.
sean rua.
I think that is generally true.
I always wonder about the breadknife; used to be found in most kitchens. An innocent, useful utensil, but not in a public place.
But what about in a sandwich bar?
Or the big knife in the local kebab shop?
I suppose context and location are important. I wouldn't feel too comfortable if some bggr came in the pub with any of the above clearly visible about his person.
sean rua.
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Always carry a baseball, or the bat could be considered superfluous. And pepper spray is a condiment your honour...
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I think one of the biggest issues with carrying a weapon like an axe or machette is the chance that it could end up being used on you! Doesnt bare thinking about. If I worried that much about security that I had to start stocking up on weaponry I wouldnt bother wild camping. I reckon the best defence is to make sure you know exactly where you are in case you need to call the police, have a quick escape route and are able to drive off.
I think the last thing you should do is get out of the van and confront whoever is out there trying to get in.
I think the last thing you should do is get out of the van and confront whoever is out there trying to get in.
Harmergeddon
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So you spend alot of time in the jungle with your van do you? Thats the only obvious reason i can see for carrying a machette. If you carry one for another reason then you have already made a pre-meditated decision to use it for this other "reason" which puts you on dangerous ground in my opinion. I agree with the comments re if i felt so in danger that i needed to have weapons to protect myself then i wouldn't be staying at that place. I for one would not want to use a machette on someone. My van can be replaced, lives can't.
sean rua
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I didn't quite understand the OP's statement that the machete was carried for obvious reasons. I just assumed it was for cutting wood of some kind.
I had one myself for years, and its use was for cutting bushes or hedges.
When I was in Malaya, the "parang" would be in most homes. Occasionally, somebody would run "amok" and use it as a weapon. Pretty scary, but no more than the big kebab knife, or even a pair of scissors, when in the hands of a possible madman.
Imo, there are much better weapons than the machete, but I'm sure that's another story.
The law is very strict at the airports nowadays: we had to unpack a case at KL airport one time, bc my son had packed a toy plastic gun in it. Also, confiscated were nailfile and small scissors that a daughter had in her handbag in a kid's cosmetic set.
Not sure where this one leads or ends, but the only thing I would advise is "discretion". No point inviting hassle, imo.
sean rua.
I had one myself for years, and its use was for cutting bushes or hedges.
When I was in Malaya, the "parang" would be in most homes. Occasionally, somebody would run "amok" and use it as a weapon. Pretty scary, but no more than the big kebab knife, or even a pair of scissors, when in the hands of a possible madman.
Imo, there are much better weapons than the machete, but I'm sure that's another story.
The law is very strict at the airports nowadays: we had to unpack a case at KL airport one time, bc my son had packed a toy plastic gun in it. Also, confiscated were nailfile and small scissors that a daughter had in her handbag in a kid's cosmetic set.
Not sure where this one leads or ends, but the only thing I would advise is "discretion". No point inviting hassle, imo.
sean rua.
Sparks
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That was the impression I got too. People can jump to the wrong conclusions I guess.
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Personally I rely on the fire extinguisher, A face full of gas may disuade some and its still heavy enough to do some damage if required, and very inofensive mounted on the wall next to the van door. Whats the point carrying an obvious offensive weapon when most of us have a decent selection to choose from in the cutlery drawer
sean rua
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Yes, after over forty attacks on a bit of property I had, I asked the Old Bill what was I allowed by law to use to try protect the place.
Everything I suggested was disallowed and NOT recommended, they said.
Bearing in mind that I suggested some vary passive things like paint balls, soft fruit, paint itself, nets, rope,pepper, curry etc, I was depressed to hear that they rejected the lot. They even said that I would be in serious trouble if used any of these.
Pressed further, they said "install eight foot high fences" and "install cctv".
Apart from the fact that it is probably against some by-law to erect 8ft high fences, I wasn't too chuffed at the idea of having to invest in all this, just bc they were unable to do the job, that imo, they get paid to do.
When I told them that I'd kill anybody who came in again, they said they'd "pretend they hadn't heard that" and, if I said it again, they'd have to search the property and I'd probably be arrested. :sad:
Despite that, I left them under no illusions that criminal intruders would be sprayed and held by nets or ropes till the police arrived. They advised against it, and said I'd be prosecuted if they discovered such circumstances. Leave it to us, they said.
I hope you have more faith in them than I have.
sean rua.
Everything I suggested was disallowed and NOT recommended, they said.
Bearing in mind that I suggested some vary passive things like paint balls, soft fruit, paint itself, nets, rope,pepper, curry etc, I was depressed to hear that they rejected the lot. They even said that I would be in serious trouble if used any of these.
Pressed further, they said "install eight foot high fences" and "install cctv".
Apart from the fact that it is probably against some by-law to erect 8ft high fences, I wasn't too chuffed at the idea of having to invest in all this, just bc they were unable to do the job, that imo, they get paid to do.
When I told them that I'd kill anybody who came in again, they said they'd "pretend they hadn't heard that" and, if I said it again, they'd have to search the property and I'd probably be arrested. :sad:
Despite that, I left them under no illusions that criminal intruders would be sprayed and held by nets or ropes till the police arrived. They advised against it, and said I'd be prosecuted if they discovered such circumstances. Leave it to us, they said.
I hope you have more faith in them than I have.
sean rua.
Guernsey Donkey
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Just put on your feathered head-dress and a mini skirt and paint you face and you will have no problems. :scared::lol-049::lol-049:
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I thought about adding the following comment to the "Wildcamping How To Guide".....??
Beware of approaching a fellow wildcamper in an attempt to say hello or borrow some sugar etc. He may be carrying a machette, baseball bat, or kalashnicov and be of a nervous disposition. :danger:
Beware of approaching a fellow wildcamper in an attempt to say hello or borrow some sugar etc. He may be carrying a machette, baseball bat, or kalashnicov and be of a nervous disposition. :danger:
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Purely from a legal point of view you would have to show that you had a good reason for carrying it, that's assuming you were stopped and they found it.
This goes for anything that could be considered an offensive weapon, so if you were walking down the street with a bread knife in your hand then the police would have good reason for asking you about it. If your answer was that you couldn't find yours and had gone to a friend to borrow theirs then you might get away with it but they may reasonable be a bit suspicious, why not in a bag or in your pocket or similar.
If you can show a good reason then you may be OK but otherwise you won't get away with it. In my job I regularly have in my possession, a chainsaw, bill hook, knife, folding saw, and any number of blunt but potentially lethal objects (now I sound a bit like Rambo) but I have a good reason for carrying those things. :scared:
I don't think in the UK you would get away with carrying it for "the obvious reasons" by which I think you may be referring to self defence, that's a no-no. However a good kick in the doo-das could be considered "reasonable force" if applied at the right time in the confruntation.
This goes for anything that could be considered an offensive weapon, so if you were walking down the street with a bread knife in your hand then the police would have good reason for asking you about it. If your answer was that you couldn't find yours and had gone to a friend to borrow theirs then you might get away with it but they may reasonable be a bit suspicious, why not in a bag or in your pocket or similar.
If you can show a good reason then you may be OK but otherwise you won't get away with it. In my job I regularly have in my possession, a chainsaw, bill hook, knife, folding saw, and any number of blunt but potentially lethal objects (now I sound a bit like Rambo) but I have a good reason for carrying those things. :scared:
I don't think in the UK you would get away with carrying it for "the obvious reasons" by which I think you may be referring to self defence, that's a no-no. However a good kick in the doo-das could be considered "reasonable force" if applied at the right time in the confruntation.
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Interestingly enough Scampa I introduced myself to the OP at a laybye in Notts on the assumption he might be one of our bretheren.
thankfully the only offensive weapon was red wine, Perhaps Billi had a pre meditated idea of disabling me by inducing incoherrence of my senses and render me dysfunctional via a pre meditated head ache :wacko:
Channa