Thanks for that Alan, I do get to Exmouth quite often to see the offspring and can usually be found in the docks car park , well the bongo is. I am usually in the pub opposite. Also stay odd nights in Exeter on a mates driveway next door to where I used to live. drnk in the whipton inn or is it the heavitree arms? Lived there for 5 years and still cant remember the names of the local pubs.:dnd: