Vegetable oil fuel

chrisatisis

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A longstanding Hymer owner has recommended adding veg oil as fuel. Does any one have experience?
 
Don't know about the Hymer but a friend of ours runs his mh on nothing but bio diesel converted by himself from old veg oil.
 
Its all about the age of the engine and the kind of diesel pump it has. Bosch pumps like it, Lucas pumps don't. Doesn't work with common rail engines either. If you run an old Transit or early 90's van you'll be OK, but take a look on an alternative fuels forum to be sure.
In winter veg oil is too thick so needs to be 'cut' with ever increasing amounts of diesel or fit a proper fuel pre-heater.
The whole issue is a bit of a can of worms and needs a lot of research. I did successfully run a 90's Shogun on veg oil in the summer months when we had that fuel strike.
 
All depends on your engine. Some modern diesels will be damaged by veg oil and certainly the DPF filter will become clogged and they are expensive.
 
ian1950

i know of four companys whoes vehicles were run on bio diesel they all had problems with fuel pumps.very expensive:fun::newhere:
 
I run my Bongo on 100% veggie in summer and 50/50 in winter. No problems over past five years. I do have a Bosch pump fitted as they are better than other makes for veggie. I also use nothing but new Rapeseed oil. Never used chip oil, too much water in it.
Lets face it Deisel made the engine to run on peanut oil in the first place. Merc Rally team also use an amount of veg although it is a well guarded secret how much.
Common Rail engines will not run on veggie.
There are much less emissions from Veg oil, and the engine runs quieter, Alsoget about the same mileage per gallon.
 
donkey too said:
I run my Bongo on 100% veggie in summer and 50/50 in winter. No problems over past five years. I do have a Bosch pump fitted as they are better than other makes for veggie. I also use nothing but new Rapeseed oil. Never used chip oil, too much water in it.
Lets face it Deisel made the engine to run on peanut oil in the first place. Merc Rally team also use an amount of veg although it is a well guarded secret how much.
Common Rail engines will not run on veggie.
There are much less emissions from Veg oil, and the engine runs quieter, Alsoget about the same mileage per gallon.
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That`s the important bit.

I know 2 people who tried with the attitude " deisel engines are all the same aren`t they ? " cost them dear.
 
i bought from Tesc in Bedford last week . a pallet load at 80p a litre. but mostly buy from a place in Posh for 85/90p.

The only time I run on 100% derv now is in France as the chances of getting stopped and tested are higher there now.

I also keep all receipts for veggie to prove what I have used in 12 months just in case some jobsworth decides to check.
 
I ran a 1998 T4 Volki on veg oil for ages. Stank like a chip shop, but in the end it was no cheaper than diesel here in the Uk. But do not try running a new fangled modern engine on it
 
£1.10 per ltr veggie from local veggie derv dealer

My T4 runs well on veggie until mot time .emmisions went sky high ???? But mpg was 34
Back to shell ...more mpg last trip south was 33-38 mpg using shell
30 -33 with tesco shite...??
 
only a twit would put vegie strate oil in a engine,tru bio can be made from wast vegi but you have to first wash with methanol then a water wash and dri before use.oil from shop has to much gliserine in it which the washing method above removes.and the true price is about 26p per litre if you can find a free sorce of oil.
 
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trevskoda said:
only a twit would put vegie strate oil in a engine,tru bio can be made from wast vegi but you have to first wash with methanol then a water wash and dri before use.oil from shop has to much gliserine in it which the washing method above removes.and the true price is about 26p per litre if you can find a free sorce of oil.
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Wouldn't dare try it in our mh but we did try veg oil/white spirit in a car we were due to scrap, ran better than with diesel, but its difficult finding used oil now to make proper bio.
 
It all seems too much hassle for what seems to be a small gain,I have a friend that uses veg oil but he does a 36 mile round trip to a warehouse to buy it then has to pour it in using a funnel which always results in spillage on his driveway,then has to take the tins to the tip,and he is paying about 95p per litre , so by the time he takes fuel for a 36 mile trip,takes away what he spilt,plus what you can't get out of can then fuel to take cans to local tip, plus it doesn't start and run quite as well as it does on diesel,and a few less miles per gallon, is it really worth it, I know it makes him happy, but me I will stick with the easy option and stick with the fuel pumps at the nearest garage
Richard
 
DUGGIESMURF said:
My T4 runs well on veggie until mot time .emissions went sky high ???? But mpg was 34
Back to shell ...more mpg last trip south was 33-38 mpg using shell
30 -33 with tesco shite...??
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Thats funny as it is well known that if you know you are going to fail on emissions stick some veggie in for the MOT .
My emissions usually are right rock bottom on the test. Maybe it's what the companies making this fuel put in with the veggie??
Also if you use NEW oil there is very little smell at all that alone chippie smell.
You may have to change a filter after using veg for the first time as the oil cleans out not only the system but the tank as well. But saying this I have used it in my P reg Bongo with an Ausie Ford Ranger engine in it for five years now and only changed the fuel filter once.
Veg oiul prices are dropping drasticaLLy at the moment so it is time to stock up. But not from High |Street stores unless lkike me you know a couple of manmagers and can get stocks at their end of sell by date, :goodluck:
 
although I have happily run veg oil in the past I don't do so in my current vehicle eeeven though it has a bosch pump and is not common rail

it is because it is DIRECT INJECTION so no pre heating before entering the cylinders ; ok , you can overcome the gumming up by installing a pre heating system but then the savings mean it isn't worth the hastle

liked the smoother combustion though
 
lebesset said:
although I have happily run veg oil in the past I don't do so in my current vehicle eeeven though it has a bosch pump and is not common rail

it is because it is DIRECT INJECTION so no pre heating before entering the cylinders ; ok , you can overcome the gumming up by installing a pre heating system but then the savings mean it isn't worth the hastle

liked the smoother combustion though
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hence in my last post dont use it strate or new bottled oil,it must treated & washed as it will be the same as mineral oil and run cleaner with no gumming up of injectors & no preheater involved,using wast and washing works out at 26p a litre if you can find a sorce free.
 
a good price david,i can nip over the border,after exchange rate it works out at one uk pound.
 
yorkieowl said:
Wouldn't dare try it in our mh but we did try veg oil/white spirit in a car we were due to scrap, ran better than with diesel, but its difficult finding used oil now to make proper bio.
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worst thing anybody could do is mix white spirit with veg oil ,you may as well run you motor on red diesel . just as illegal . not the veg oil its the white spirit where you fall foul of the law

i had a m reg merc 250 c class ran great on veg oil about a 50/50 mix oil and diesel i used ,also my seat Alhambra r reg that ran the same , only thing is at the price of new cooking oil nowadays its not worth the hassle especially now diesel can be had for1.23 a litre ,cheaper than most cooking oil unless you use that supermarket ****
 
trevskoda said:
hence in my last post dont use it strate or new bottled oil,it must treated & washed as it will be the same as mineral oil and run cleaner with no gumming up of injectors & no preheater involved,using wast and washing works out at 26p a litre if you can find a sorce free.
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very little chance of getting any used oil over here ,seems as if councils and recycling companies have the hold on old oil . takeaways seem to have to keep a record of all oil bought ,and then the amount of oil recycled . a certain amount is allowed for wastage. but gone have the days when old oil was stacked out in alleyways in old drums free for the taking .
 
A taxi firm local to where I live run all their vehicles (Skoda Octavia's) on Bio Diesel and have not had any problems but change the fuel filter more often than normal.
 
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