The EU isn't all bad!

Northerner

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Some people like to moan about the EU but it does have some advantages. The main one of course is being able to travel through several countries and not be changing money and paying commission charges at every border. It will be a sad day for travelers if the Euro is abandoned.

Equally important must be the European Health Insurance Card. Would we have this if we weren't in the EU?

Four days ago we were driving along the Algarve, destination Sagres and eventually Lisbon. We spotted a supermarket on the road just past Lagos and my wife nipped out to get some bread. Unbeknownst to me, she tripped on an upturned cobblestone and fell. Unfortunately there was a line of small bollards protecting the entrance and she went face down on one of them. She smashed her nose very badly and had other minor scrapes and there was blood everywhere as you can imagine.

The supermarket was very helpful, phoned for an ambulance and found a roll of soft tissue to stem the bleeding.

The ambulance took her to Lagos (this was Friday) where she was examined and x-rayed. It turned out that she needed surgery by a rhinoplasty expert and the nearest one was in Portimao, a few kilometres down the road. It was arranged for the surgery to be done there the next morning so, at 0800 hours, I had her at the hospital. She was seen quite quickly and put through all the pre-op checks and had the surgery later that afternoon. She stayed in overnight and I collected her on Sunday afternoon and, in view of her requirements, found a very good site that is absolutely immaculate and has a disabled shower room where she can shower in private whilst sitting down.

She had a check this morning but they want to leave the plugs in her nose until Thursday. Lisbon is now off the agenda but we're definitely coming back next year to complete the trip.

The Portuguese health service has been superb. So far I've paid €21 for the first part of the treatment at Lagos and €11 for some antibiotics. When I get the bill for the operation I expect it to be a hundred or maybe two hundred Euro, I've really no idea but it's irrelevant as, when I return home I shall send the bills to the DHSS in Newcastle and they'll refund me with the lot.

So there you are. The next time you want to whinge about the EU, consider that it does have some big advantages, least of all no wars for a few decades!

Finally, her nose, which was squashed and bent sideways, is now straight. She has a splint on it and in a few weeks it should be as it was before. She can't have anything hot as it causes bleeding and she can't chew solids at present as she has difficulty swallowing, but we always look on the bright side and it could have been a lot worse. A blow like that on the wrong part of the brain or head could have killed her or left her paralysed.
 
I'm glad everything is going well for your wife Northener.
 
Sorry to hear about your wife's accident. Guess it must have shaken her up but hope she's feeling a little better now. Relax and enjoy the rest of your stay in Portugal :wave:
 
Some reassuring points there about the EU!

Best wishes for Mrs Northerners' swift recovery.
 
got taken to that very hospital with tick fever,compares well with here.if you have to hang around pop up to the car park opp the modelo in silves.sounds like your wife is a lucky lady
 
Hello
Good post. I too travel a lot in EU countries and share your sentiments on the Euro etc.
I was unaware that you are able to claim back costs for medical treatment in other EU states from the DHSS.
Best wishes for a full recovery to your lass.

Blue Skies
 
My only experience with medical issues in the EU was in Germany where my daughter broke her wrist.

I can only be complimentary in the excellent service we received.

Glad your wife received equally excellent service and is on the way to recovery.

It's too easy to moan about things, good to look at the positive aspects for a change.
 
Hello
Good post. I too travel a lot in EU countries and share your sentiments on the Euro etc.
I was unaware that you are able to claim back costs for medical treatment in other EU states from the DHSS.
Best wishes for a full recovery to your lass.

Blue Skies

Yes, it's easy as I've had experience. I had a cycling accident in France two years ago, which resulted in two out-patient visits, x-rays and plastering for a broken bone in my finger and various scrapes cleaned. The total bill was about €100 and, when I got home, I found the website of the relevant DHSS department and downloaded the form.

I posted it off and a couple of weeks later the money landed in my bank account.

I think we're actually better off than the residents of the country in question. I would imagine that a French person would have had to pay the €100 and, unless he had a private health policy, he couldn't reclaim it.

We're not normally accident prone and they say that these things come in threes. I'm just hoping that the third won't be fatal!
 
How awful for you and your wife. I hope she recovers quickly.

I agree there are some good benefits of being in the EU. I had to have emergency dental treatment in France once. The treatment and service was just superb. Made English Dentists (well the ones I have used) look Dickensian in Comparison. The bill was €300 and I actually had a choice over who would pay it. The NHS said I could claim and so did my Travel Insurance. I just bunged it through the Travel insurance as it seemed easier. I was supprised though that the NHS offered to pay it as surely if I had been at home I would have had to pay for the treatment?
 
the EU isn't all bad

We live in france and we have had wonderful treatment from the health service, everyone pays to see a doctor etc. you then claim back from the french health system, a doctor charges €23 and a specialist charges €28 I think you get back about 65% and the rest is covered by a mutual (private health insurance) anything such as cancer, heart problems, diabetes or life threatening is free, I think we are better off than you are in England, you have a blood test and get the results next day, your doctor is sent the results also, then you ring him and he will tell you the results over the phone, you get to see the doctor quickly and he will get you to a specialist in days not weeks as in England, I had acute pancreatitis a couple of years back and the specialist/surgeon said if you need me just give me a ring I have done a couple of times and there is no messing! it's a matter of minutes and I have been speaking to him. Bambi 2

Yes, it's easy as I've had experience. I had a cycling accident in France two years ago, which resulted in two out-patient visits, x-rays and plastering for a broken bone in my finger and various scrapes cleaned. The total bill was about €100 and, when I got home, I found the website of the relevant DHSS department and downloaded the form.

I posted it off and a couple of weeks later the money landed in my bank account.

I think we're actually better off than the residents of the country in question. I would imagine that a French person would have had to pay the €100 and, unless he had a private health policy, he couldn't reclaim it.

We're not normally accident prone and they say that these things come in threes. I'm just hoping that the third won't be fatal!
 
That's the nature of accidents I suppose, they strike when you're not expecting it. If you were hill walking, cycling through Paris, horse riding in the Camargue or riding in a dodgy taxi you would be wary and expecting something to happen (well I do anyway). But getting out of the van to do some quick shopping? That's when it gets you :mad2:

Hope your better half recovers soon and has a better experience next time you're there.
 
That's the nature of accidents I suppose, they strike when you're not expecting it. If you were hill walking, cycling through Paris, horse riding in the Camargue or riding in a dodgy taxi you would be wary and expecting something to happen (well I do anyway). But getting out of the van to do some quick shopping? That's when it gets you..
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Some people like to moan about the EU but it does have some advantages. The main one of course is being able to travel through several countries and not be changing money and paying commission charges at every border. It will be a sad day for travelers if the Euro is abandoned.

Equally important must be the European Health Insurance Card. Would we have this if we weren't in the EU?

Four days ago we were driving along the Algarve, destination Sagres and eventually Lisbon. We spotted a supermarket on the road just past Lagos and my wife nipped out to get some bread. Unbeknownst to me, she tripped on an upturned cobblestone and fell. Unfortunately there was a line of small bollards protecting the entrance and she went face down on one of them. She smashed her nose very badly and had other minor scrapes and there was blood everywhere as you can imagine.

The supermarket was very helpful, phoned for an ambulance and found a roll of soft tissue to stem the bleeding.

The ambulance took her to Lagos (this was Friday) where she was examined and x-rayed. It turned out that she needed surgery by a rhinoplasty expert and the nearest one was in Portimao, a few kilometres down the road. It was arranged for the surgery to be done there the next morning so, at 0800 hours, I had her at the hospital. She was seen quite quickly and put through all the pre-op checks and had the surgery later that afternoon. She stayed in overnight and I collected her on Sunday afternoon and, in view of her requirements, found a very good site that is absolutely immaculate and has a disabled shower room where she can shower in private whilst sitting down.

She had a check this morning but they want to leave the plugs in her nose until Thursday. Lisbon is now off the agenda but we're definitely coming back next year to complete the trip.

The Portuguese health service has been superb. So far I've paid €21 for the first part of the treatment at Lagos and €11 for some antibiotics. When I get the bill for the operation I expect it to be a hundred or maybe two hundred Euro, I've really no idea but it's irrelevant as, when I return home I shall send the bills to the DHSS in Newcastle and they'll refund me with the lot.

So there you are. The next time you want to whinge about the EU, consider that it does have some big advantages, least of all no wars for a few decades!

Finally, her nose, which was squashed and bent sideways, is now straight. She has a splint on it and in a few weeks it should be as it was before. She can't have anything hot as it causes bleeding and she can't chew solids at present as she has difficulty swallowing, but we always look on the bright side and it could have been a lot worse. A blow like that on the wrong part of the brain or head could have killed her or left her paralysed.
:danger:beware Belgium you hve to pay roughly a third of all hospital tho Belge go free in UK I was hospitalised in three hospitals one after th other for near two months lot of money and newcastle said if not enough income they are supposed to get it from local health authority. II paid what i could but not the really big ones pension nowhere near en ough for that and i have been honunded ever since debt collectors threats lawyers boy are they determinidly greedy...but...there is npo blood in this stone and i won't be back to Belge ever again bad for them too as i spend long periods there thanks to a cousin's property and spent most of my pension in those days. I've been ill in other countries Germany France Croatia Czech and never been asked for a penny uk insurance did work 100 percent. belgian are really greedy lot sad nice place.:cool1:
 
Sorry to here about your wifes accident hope she is on the mend, The EU has its pro's and cons just like most things in life, It's a pity we couldnt take the best of both worlds :)
 

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