Stealth van ?

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Hey guys got me self a ford transit crew cab .
I'm going to convert it myself into a camper ( has side window already and diesel night heater!)
The question I have is should I remove the yellow warning lights on the roof ?? )
The lights are the ones you see on motorway maintainance vans 👍
My reckoning is I could park at the side streets or lay-bys and un-benown to passing public would think it's a normal work van ? ( if I leave em on )
The only worry I have is not being able to visit campsites with it as it would not look like a camper ??
Any suggestions would be appreciated as I'm in two minds so to speak ???
Pros cons etc
Many thanks
 
If you like the lights leave them, if you don't, remove them. I wouldn't be worrying about what passers by think, and most of the time, they really don't notice or care.
 
Had a stealth van for years and parked wherever I liked without probs - including C&CC campsites. However, I always carried one of those £10 'throw and it's up' wee tents that fold away into nothing just in case some campsite said that I didn't qualify as a campervan, I could then still pitch the tent and pretend to use that (for storage quite handy) but sleep, cook, etc., in the van parked alongside it. Never had to erect the tent.

As to the flashing yellows on your roof, why not paint them blue then you can ignore speed limits, no parking signs, box junctions and the like. (Just a joke - it's up to you what you do with them, as has already been said above).

:D
 
Had a stealth van for years and parked wherever I liked without probs - including C&CC campsites. However, I always carried one of those £10 'throw and it's up' wee tents that fold away into nothing just in case some campsite said that I didn't qualify as a campervan, I could then still pitch the tent and pretend to use that (for storage quite handy) but sleep, cook, etc., in the van parked alongside it. Never had to erect the tent.

As to the flashing yellows on your roof, why not paint them blue then you can ignore speed limits, no parking signs, box junctions and the like. (Just a joke - it's up to you what you do with them, as has already been said above).

:D

Yes nice post / reply thanks !👍
 
Last month when we were parked up overnight near the Falkirk wheel there was a transit just as you describe yours with yellow lights still on the roof,
It was only in the morning when I saw someone in it did I realise it was a stealth camper,up until then I just thought it was a contractors van parked up, so as you say they make a great stealth camper,especially with the orange lights fitted
 
Some one here had a ambulance and was turned down when applying to dvla for cert,and mot may not like it as only service vh are allowed them but try anyway,never know you may get some work filling in pot holes.
 
you can get the orange light with a magnetic base ,so you can have it or not
 
I'd leave them on and see how you get on. Sounds a good idea if you want to try and not attract attention.
 
unless someone thinks you might have a couple of nice Stihl saws tucked away in the back!
trouble with stealth vans ,is you can't look out the window when someone's poking around outside trying to nick stuff, diesel,tyres,cat converters,etc. so if you hear a noise outside,you'd have to step out and confront ,instead of having a peek and maybe starting the engine and skedaddling !
if it was an obvious camper they might not risk disturbing the potentially homicidal owner.
then in winter, do you have a burner or eberspacher giving you away ?
i'm generally not in favour of stealth vans
 
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you can get the orange light with a magnetic base ,so you can have it or not

I have disconnected the wire to use for 12v interior lights ( run of factory fitted leisure bat.. )
Think I'm gonna leave the yellow shells on the roof .
They serve no purpose now just looks like a network rail van unbeknown to the general me the Mrs and dog are sleeping, cooking , etc ! 👍
 
unless someone thinks you might have a couple of nice Stihl saws tucked away in the back!
trouble with stealth vans ,is you can't look out the window when someone's poking around outside trying to nick stuff, diesel,tyres,cat converters,etc. so if you hear a noise outside,you'd have to step out and confront ,instead of having a peek and maybe starting the engine and skedaddling !
if it was an obvious camper they might not risk disturbing the potentially homicidal owner.
then in winter, do you have a burner or eberspacher giving you away ?
i'm generally not in favour of stealth vans

Good points well made.
 
My ex network rail transit is a stealth van - well, it was until i put a window in the sliding door with a curtain with butterflies on and a pink fluffy steering wheel cover. But I've made a blind for the window using silver bubble wrap which hides the curtain and unless you are close up and looking into cab, it passes as any old builders van. I've surprised a few people on occasion when me and the 2 dogs have piled out of the back of it, revealing an interior resembling a junk shop / car boot sale.

I don't use campsites but if I ever needed to, my plan was to pop up a pop up tent as already suggested. Probably cheaper as a tent camper than to pay as a motorhome too.

N Brown is right about not being able to see out - I have wondered about fitting a couple of spy holes like you get in front doors in the back doors and side walls. That would work in daylight but probably not at night. There's also been some discussion on here about periscopes out of roof lights if I remember correctly ;-)

Re MOT - mine was tested a couple of weeks ago and the tester told me that it would be tested as seen, ie if he thought it was a motorhome, he would put that down on the paperwork, but if he saw simply a van it would be tested as a van. So basically when it's tested, empty everything out of the cab, pull the curtain across and the tester has no reason to go in the back, therefore it's tested as a van.

One thing to be careful of though, it's not easy to get non commercial insurance for a van of that size, and many policies will exclude use as a campervan / motorhome. The way round this is to insure it as a Modified Van, all you have to do is list all modifications and you are basically allowed to use it however you like, so long as you declare it. It's a bit more expensive than van insurance but not massive difference, and at least you will be legally covered to sleep in it. I'm with Brentacre, and their renewal quote has just come through about £20 cheaper than last year!!! I'm gobsmacked. However, you will not normally be covered for contents insurance but you may be covered for contents away from home under home insurance.

I love the anonymity of my van and regularly park up on industrial estates without any problems but be aware that a white van parked up in a remote rural area often arouses more interest and suspicion than a motorhome would - the automatic assumption is that you are either gypsy / fly tipper / quad bike nicker. I've actually been wondering about getting some magnetic signwriting for my van which I could slap on quickly as needed, something like "Show dogs in transit" or "Canine Capers Dog Walking Service" etc which I think would help alleviate suspicion.

Go for it. You'll have tons of fun and the truckers on the motorway will be much more respectful of you in a van than in a campervan / motorhome :)
 
My ex network rail transit is a stealth van - well, it was until i put a window in the sliding door with a curtain with butterflies on and a pink fluffy steering wheel cover. But I've made a blind for the window using silver bubble wrap which hides the curtain and unless you are close up and looking into cab, it passes as any old builders van. I've surprised a few people on occasion when me and the 2 dogs have piled out of the back of it, revealing an interior resembling a junk shop / car boot sale.

I don't use campsites but if I ever needed to, my plan was to pop up a pop up tent as already suggested. Probably cheaper as a tent camper than to pay as a motorhome too.

N Brown is right about not being able to see out - I have wondered about fitting a couple of spy holes like you get in front doors in the back doors and side walls. That would work in daylight but probably not at night. There's also been some discussion on here about periscopes out of roof lights if I remember correctly ;-)

Re MOT - mine was tested a couple of weeks ago and the tester told me that it would be tested as seen, ie if he thought it was a motorhome, he would put that down on the paperwork, but if he saw simply a van it would be tested as a van. So basically when it's tested, empty everything out of the cab, pull the curtain across and the tester has no reason to go in the back, therefore it's tested as a van.

One thing to be careful of though, it's not easy to get non commercial insurance for a van of that size, and many policies will exclude use as a campervan / motorhome. The way round this is to insure it as a Modified Van, all you have to do is list all modifications and you are basically allowed to use it however you like, so long as you declare it. It's a bit more expensive than van insurance but not massive difference, and at least you will be legally covered to sleep in it. I'm with Brentacre, and their renewal quote has just come through about £20 cheaper than last year!!! I'm gobsmacked. However, you will not normally be covered for contents insurance but you may be covered for contents away from home under home insurance.

I love the anonymity of my van and regularly park up on industrial estates without any problems but be aware that a white van parked up in a remote rural area often arouses more interest and suspicion than a motorhome would - the automatic assumption is that you are either gypsy / fly tipper / quad bike nicker. I've actually been wondering about getting some magnetic signwriting for my van which I could slap on quickly as needed, something like "Show dogs in transit" or "Canine Capers Dog Walking Service" etc which I think would help alleviate suspicion.

Go for it. You'll have tons of fun and the truckers on the motorway will be much more respectful of you in a van than in a campervan / motorhome :)

Brilliant thank you so much 👍✌️
 
Dont put a dogging sticker on:danger: i had those mag ad on my car for biz and when i removed to clean they had made the paint bubble behind them :mad2:
 
The only vehicle I have ever had stolen was a Land Rover with yellows on.
Won't they restrict going in some car parks due to extra height?
I saw a van in Salford with a sign on the back door that said " No pies kept in this van overnight" that may be worth a go???
 
Just another thing about Transits, the biggest killer of Transits is rust so get underneath it now and make a note of any potential problem areas and get them treated. It won't stop it but may prolong its life and reduce amount of welding needed in future. My Transit specialist mechanic said not to use underseal as it traps the rust in but to get an oil spray done twice a year.

Weak areas are underneath the spare wheel housing which you can't see without removing the spare wheel - do this regularly and keep the retaining mechanism well greased as its prone to jamming and replacement kit is £70. Also apparently spare wheels do get nicked so mine is now inside the van, its a frustrating loss of storage space but at least if needed I won't need bolt cutters to get at it.

Another weak area is floor and rear chassis member especially if, like certain aged Transits, the panel join seams leak - it took me ages to trace a leak causing damp just behind the rear wheel arches, it was from the panel seams. Sikaflex sorted that.

Also front wing panels rot from inside, apparently damp collects under the bonnet. New wing panels only cost £30 off eBay and an easy enough job to fit so not too much of a problem.

Keep an eye on sills too, and wheel arches.

If you are anywhere near Lancashire I can recommend a great, honest and very knowledgeable transit mechanic. Well worth travelling to, and you can stay overnight in his yard.
 
Thanks for the advise !
I'm in Manchester so the details of your mechanic would be most appreciated thanks ��
 
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