Spain entry requirements from 23rd November

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From 23rd November arrivals from the U.K. into Spain by sea or air will have to complete forms prior to entry and undertake a medical test within the preceding 72 hours prior to entry. Hopefully, Brittany Ferries will set up a walk in test centre at the Portsmouth ferry port:-

www.gov.uk

Entry requirements - Spain travel advice

FCDO travel advice for Spain. Includes safety and security, insurance, entry requirements and legal differences.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

This does not currently apply to land entry from France.

The NHS have said that you should not use their test service for the purposes of foreign travel. You should arrange a private test.

All these additional hoops have still not put me off travelling to Spain, U.K. authorities permitting of course!

We have to remember that regardless of where we are, U.K. or Spain, there is risk. But as much of our time in Spain is spent outdoors in the wilds then the risk to us and those around us must be considerably lower than sitting indoors in the UK looking out the window at the rain!
 
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Moped said:
From 23rd November arrivals from the U.K. into Spain by sea or air will have to complete forms prior to entry and undertake a medical test within the preceding 72 hours prior to entry. Hopefully, Brittany Ferries will set up a walk in test centre at the Portsmouth ferry port:-

www.gov.uk

Entry requirements - Spain travel advice

FCDO travel advice for Spain. Includes safety and security, insurance, entry requirements and legal differences.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

This does not currently apply to land entry from France.

The NHS have said that you should not use their test service for the purposes of foreign travel. You should arrange a private test.
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Cant blame them looking after themselves but it will be a costly and problematic trip for a lot of people and more trouble than it is worth for others
 
The numbers travelling to Spain by air exceed those arriving at a ferry port many times over. It will be interesting to see how the airline and tourist travel companies handle this.

At least if you in a motorhome it is very simple to change arrangements at short notice. Not so with air travel and holiday bookings.

Odd how this has had so little U.K. press and media coverage?
 
Reading through the Governments Article above, this little gem popped out at me.



  • if you are travelling to Spain and other Schengen countries without a visa, make sure your whole visit is within the limit. Visits to Schengen countries within the previous 180 days before you travel would count towards the 90-day limit
Does this mean that you have to be out of Schengen for six months, before you are allowed to visit for 90 days?
 
RoaminRog said:
Reading through the Governments Article above, this little gem popped out at me.



  • if you are travelling to Spain and other Schengen countries without a visa, make sure your whole visit is within the limit. Visits to Schengen countries within the previous 180 days before you travel would count towards the 90-day limit
Does this mean that you have to be out of Schengen for six months, before you are allowed to visit for 90 days?
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No. It means that you are not permitted to enter if you have already been within the zone for 90 days in the preceding 180. So 90 days in, 90 days out, 90 days in, 90 days out, shake it all about, is acceptable.

Days spent prior to 31st December do not count In the calculation.

Unlike the new entry requirement from 23rd November, this affects seasonal migration motorhome visitors rather more in the grand scheme of life than the short term airline and holiday visitors
 
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Moped said:
No. It means that you are not permitted to enter if you have already been within the zone for 90 days in the preceding 180. So 90 days in, 90 days out, 90 days in, 90 days out, shake it all about, is acceptable.

Days spent prior to 31st December do not count In the calculation.

Unlike the new entry requirement from 23rd November, this affects seasonal migration motorhome visitors rather more in the grand scheme of life than the short term airline and holiday visitors
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I think the Government wording could be clearer.
  • Visits to Schengen countries within the previous 180 days before you travel would count towards the 90-day limit
 
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Rog,
I would have thought by now you knew the Government does not make anything clear.
Ambiguity rather than clarity is the mantra.
 
As a total ignoramus and just reading the sentence as it stands, I would interpret it as saying however many days you've spent in Schengen countries during the 180 days prior to your setting foot (or van!) back on (Schengen?) soil will count towards the 90 day stay limit?

Or is that too simplistic? :unsure:
 
That’s how I read it Marie.
We have all been expecting 90 in 90 out, but we MAY have a problem if that sentence is taken literally.

Glad you finally got your van sorted by the way.
 
I think for the next year most of us will be very restricted in our movements, I do think there is plenty of local places to see for that time.
 
We had our river cruise on the Douro cancelled for May this year and carried it over to 2021, but I'm beginning to think it may be wishful thinking. They may not think it's safe to have 100 ancients (I nearly used the phrase I normally call myself, OF but restrained myself) sharing space on a boat and visiting places on shore is such a good idea again
 
Travel will not return to normal in 2021.
The likelihood is there will be flare ups and local restrictions
Although we have 2 European ideas it maybe that we stay in UK
Even ignoring travel restrictions this is likely to be best in case either of us is ILL..
If the vaccine proves good and is rolled out quickly........Then some form of normality may return in 2022.
Call it the Revised New Normal.
Where is "Nostradamus" ?
 
jagmanx said:
Travel will not return to normal in 2021.
The likelihood is there will be flare ups and local restrictions
Although we have 2 European ideas it maybe that we stay in UK
Even ignoring travel restrictions this is likely to be best in case either of us is ILL..
If the vaccine proves good and is rolled out quickly........Then some form of normality may return in 2022.
Call it the Revised New Normal.
Where is "Nostradamus" ?
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I tend to agree with your statement i also think travel will be a nightmare next year - but we will see
 
RoaminRog said:
That’s how I read it Marie.
We have all been expecting 90 in 90 out, but we MAY have a problem if that sentence is taken literally.

Glad you finally got your van sorted by the way.
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I take it that your allowed 90 in a 180 how you spend that for a better word is up to you. So 90 in 90 out is ok but if you have a two week holiday somewhere else you then only have 76 days left in your 180.
So multiple visits would be allowed in your limit of 90 in 180 or one 90 in every 180.
I think you need to read the whole section not just one sentence.
Hum so yes just the one sentence in the wrong hands could be nasty :(
 
Dont know how some of the uk long distance lorry drivers will do this certainly going to make it awkward and effect uk economy and what the tax man can get out of people same could be said for eu drivers coming to uk - but time will tell if the ruling is viable or not
 
mariesnowgoose said:
As a total ignoramus and just reading the sentence as it stands, I would interpret it as saying however many days you've spent in Schengen countries during the 180 days prior to your setting foot (or van!) back on (Schengen?) soil will count towards the 90 day stay limit?

Or is that too simplistic? :unsure:
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That's exactly what it says and what it means, not in any way ambigious.
 
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