Solar Panels?

PaulAnn

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Hi All

Should I buy a solar panel at the Birmingham show if there are any offers on?

We like to wild camp as much as possible, have two 95amp batteries,stalite TV like to watch TV in thedark winter nights. My van is a Rapido 7087F which is I understand is pre wired for solar panels.

What size should I get? where can I get the best price? Can you reccommend any make/fitters?

:) :) :)

Paul Ann
 
I've just fitted another solar panel a few hours ago. My thinking behind the decision might be at odds with people with more knowledge than me but at least my thoughts are based on experience.

When we started using satellite television in our van about five years ago I thought it prudent to fit a panel. So I did -a 75 Watt Panel which I monitored as best I could. The panel would deliver about 4 amps on a reasonable day maybe five on very good day, and even on an overcast day would produce two or three amps. I delivered this to the batteries, the same sort of capacity as yours, through a 6 amp regulator.

I monitored the usage as best I could but the only guide I had was to measure the voltage and watch a red light which would start to flash on the regulator. When I became alarmed that the voltage would drop to about 11 volts I would just switch the television off. Usually the red light would then stop flashing, turn to green and there would be requests to turn the TV back on.

The television, lately an LCD television, and satellite decoder use about 8 amps. The 75 watt panel would provide about three, maybe four hours after a good day, television before I used to get worried. My partner likes her Eastenders and so on so I have to find a reliable way to get the fix she needs. In Britain this summer, using terrestial television (so just about 4 amps) I had no need to bother about over-consumption at all. The red light never flashed no matter how long we watched.

So today I fitted another panel, wired it in parallel to the old panel and I now have a total of 140 watts which should provide about 8 amps - you divide the wattage by 17. I don't know why. Ohms Law tells me you should divide it by 12 but probably dividing by 17 takes into account inefficiencies in the panel and installation. My maybe muddled thinking says that there's no point in producing a load of electricity if you can't store it so, after trying the panel for a while, I'll probably buy another similar high capacity battery to the two I already have. If I think I need it, that is.

I also now have a new 10 amp regulator which tells me all sort of things that will probably prove useful to me. It tells me State of Charge which is probably more reliable that the straightforward voltage reading that I'm used to. I don't know how it works out the state of charge. I think it balances what you get in against what you use. It tells me how many amps the panels are producing and how many of those amps are being delivered to the batteries. Oh, and it also tells me the battery voltage.

It also measure how much you get in a day and how much you use in a day. I mean that must be useful, yes? If you get more than you use Mr Micawber is happy but if you use more than you get then we are all gong to be unhappy.

The panels are easy to fit if you're fairly handy. I built a fairly rudimentary junction box the better to understand the wiring and also to make sure that everything was fused and protected. I've also labelled everything in the sure and certain knowledge that I'll have forgotten how I wired everything in six months time.

I very much don't regret buying the first panel and I don't think I will regret buying this latest one. In fact I don't see how we could live for reasonable lengths of time without a supplementary source of electricity. Maybe for weekends or so but not for two or three months away.

I hope it all works as well for you as it has done for us. I think you just have to look for the best price. If they look well constructed and buy from somebody reliable then everything should be ok. It's not like there are any moving parts to wear out. Our latest panel is a Kyocera, I don't know about the first one we bought but we used the same supplier so amybe the same make.

Tom
 
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maureenandtom said:
I've just fitted another solar panel a few hours ago. My thinking behind the decision might be at odds with people with more knowledge than me but at least my thoughts are based on experience.

When we started using satellite television in our van about five years ago I thought it prudent to fit a panel. So I did -a 75 Watt Panel which I monitored as best I could. The panel would deliver about 4 amps on a reasonable day maybe five on very good day, and even on an overcast day would produce two or three amps. I delivered this to the batteries, the same sort of capacity as yours, through a 6 amp regulator.

I monitored the usage as best I could but the only guide I had was to measure the voltage and watch a red light which would start to flash on the regulator. When I became alarmed that the voltage would drop to about 11 volts I would just switch the television off. Usually the red light would then stop flashing, turn to green and there would be requests to turn the TV back on.

The television, lately an LCD television, and satellite decoder use about 8 amps. The 75 watt panel would provide about three, maybe four hours after a good day, television before I used to get worried. My partner likes her Eastenders and so on so I have to find a reliable way to get the fix she needs. In Britain this summer, using terrestial television (so just about 4 amps) I had no need to bother about over-consumption at all. The red light never flashed no matter how long we watched.

So today I fitted another panel, wired it in parallel to the old panel and I now have a total of 140 watts which should provide about 8 amps - you divide the wattage by 17. I don't know why. Ohms Law tells me you should divide it by 12 but probably dividing by 17 takes into account inefficiencies in the panel and installation. My maybe muddled thinking says that there's no point in producing a load of electricity if you can't store it so, after trying the panel for a while, I'll probably buy another similar high capacity battery to the two I already have. If I think I need it, that is.

I also now have a new 10 amp regulator which tells me all sort of things that will probably prove useful to me. It tells me State of Charge which is probably more reliable that the straightforward voltage reading that I'm used to. I don't know how it works out the state of charge. I think it balances what you get in against what you use. It tells me how many amps the panels are producing and how many of those amps are being delivered to the batteries. Oh, and it also tells me the battery voltage.

It also measure how much you get in a day and how much you use in a day. I mean that must be useful, yes? If you get more than you use Mr Micawber is happy but if you use more than you get then we are all gong to be unhappy.

The panels are easy to fit if you're fairly handy. I built a fairly rudimentary junction box the better to understand the wiring and also to make sure that everything was fused and protected. I've also labelled everything in the sure and certain knowledge that I'll have forgotten how I wired everything in six months time.

I very much don't regret buying the first panel and I don't think I will regret buying this latest one. In fact I don't see how we could live for reasonable lengths of time without a supplementary source of electricity. Maybe for weekends or so but not for two or three months away.

I hope it all works as well for you as it has done for us. I think you just have to look for the best price. If they look well constructed and buy from somebody reliable then everything should be ok. It's not like there are any moving parts to wear out. Our latest panel is a Kyocera, I don't know about the first one we bought but we used the same supplier so amybe the same make.

Tom
Brilliant, many thanks for very imformative help. Many thanks
Paul Ann
 
We have a 120 watt panel on the roof. It is wired direct to the engine battery. We have removed the zig unit, & replaced it with a battery to battery charger. This is in circuit between the engine battery & our two leisure batteries. We have a special regulator which sounds similar to "maureen and tom" The solar panel charges the engine battery, the battery to battery charger then feeds the leisure batteries when the engine battery is anything above a certain level. & boost the charge to 14.8 volts thereby avoiding sulphation.
We never use sites, never have hook up. & I have looked in the van tonight & the batteries stand at 13.8 which speaks for itself. The battery to battery charger is supplied by Sterling Products. & is an amazing piece of kit.
Every wild camper should have one. hope this helps.
 
Once again many thanks for your reply, I think I know what I am going to do!

Paulann
 
"special regulator"

We have a 120 watt panel on the roof. It is wired direct to the engine battery. We have removed the zig unit, & replaced it with a battery to battery charger. This is in circuit between the engine battery & our two leisure batteries. We have a special regulator which sounds similar to "maureen and tom" The solar panel charges the engine battery, the battery to battery charger then feeds the leisure batteries when the engine battery is anything above a certain level. & boost the charge to 14.8 volts thereby avoiding sulphation.
We never use sites, never have hook up. & I have looked in the van tonight & the batteries stand at 13.8 which speaks for itself. The battery to battery charger is supplied by Sterling Products. & is an amazing piece of kit.
Every wild camper should have one. hope this helps.

Hi autosleeper, thanks, that sounds great. I'm not sure from your description where the "special regulator" is wired in? Is this a separate piece of kit to the battery to battery charger? Where does this come in the sequence? Is it after the engine battery and before the charger?

Thank you
 
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On other forums I go to old threads are routinely locked once they reach a certain age (generally 6 months) with no additional posts, the threads are still available for browsing/searching so the info is not lost. It looks like it is a practice that should be looked into here.
 
On other forums I go to old threads are routinely locked once they reach a certain age (generally 6 months) with no additional posts, the threads are still available for browsing/searching so the info is not lost. It looks like it is a practice that should be looked into here.

Your wish is my command, although I have set it to 1 year.

Phil
 
Your wish is my command, although I have set it to 1 year.

Phil

I suggest that this should not apply to the forums related to wild camping spots - it is possible that an update might posted about a place long after the information was originally posted ...
 
I suggest that this should not apply to the forums related to wild camping spots - it is possible that an update might posted about a place long after the information was originally posted ...

Very true

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