Service & MOT

[Dezi]

I have been using Millstream motors for about 16 years and it has recently been taken over by two
younger lads who have been recommended by David the old mechanic.

This morning I went over for my annual service and MOT on the Murvi.
Job was completed for £114,99.
Good quality oils and filters used, tyre pressures checked and adjusted with a very satisfied Dezi at the end.

All size motorhomes catered for, in fact a largish dethleffs globebus also in there this morning.

Millstream Motors,
Millstream Trading estate,
Christchurch Rd,
Ringwood.
BH24 3SB

 

[mariesnowgoose]

It's all a question of finding younger folk where the skills have been properly transferred down the line.
Unfortunately these days that's a bit like looking for hen's teeth, or rocking horse s**t.

Well done you

 

[Tookey]

It's all a question of finding younger folk where the skills have been properly transferred down the line.
Unfortunately these days that's a bit like looking for hen's teeth, or rocking horse s**t.

Well done you

.............but the young get still get blamed, that's the bit I don't get.

"bl00dy snowflakes blah blah" comes from the grandparents and parents that raised them

 

[mariesnowgoose]

.............but the young get still get blamed, that's the bit I don't get.

"bl00dy snowflakes blah blah" comes from the grandparents and parents that raised them

Not from me it doesn't

It ain't the youngsters fault that education has changed so much.

Remember City & Guilds? Proper apprenticeships?

All done away with. And we are all the poorer because of it.
So if anyone wonders why you can't get a 'proper' job done by a lot of the basic trades look no further.

Also working practices have changed.
Take modern house building, for example.
Even someone who is good at their trade isn't given a chance to do the job properly by the profiteering & greedy housebuilding firms.
I wouldn't buy a modern house now if the only alternative was a run-down shack!

We're lucky we've still got the likes of @runnach practising a skilled trade. Conscientiously passing on hard-earned knowledge to new students, even if he feels like he's banging his head against a brick wall sometimes (don't we all?!)

 

[Dezi]

It's all a question of finding younger folk where the skills have been properly transferred down the line.
Unfortunately these days that's a bit like looking for hen's teeth, or rocking horse s**t.

Well done you

There speaks the voice of experience.

On a serious note I use the term "younger" from my elderly perspective.
The lads are in there late 20s and both time served and experienced mechanics.

 

[mickymost]

Not from me it doesn't

It ain't the youngsters fault that education has changed so much.

Remember City & Guilds? Proper apprenticeships?

All done away with. And we are all the poorer because of it.
So if anyone wonders why you can't get a 'proper' job done by a lot of the basic trades look no further.

Also working practices have changed.
Take modern house building, for example.
Even someone who is good at their trade isn't given a chance to do the job properly by the profiteering & greedy housebuilding firms.
I wouldn't buy a modern house now if the only alternative was a run-down shack!

We're lucky we've still got the likes of @runnach practising a skilled trade. Conscientiously passing on hard-earned knowledge to new students, even if he feels like he's banging his head against a brick wall sometimes (don't we all?!)

I completed City and Guilds so know it well Yes a proper Apprenticeship with indentures and a 4 year course.On the job training and college.
Kids today are offered and do an Nvq over a few weeks.Cant be done no way in that time.
Not their fault need to blame the Governments.

 

[Dezi]

I completed City and Guilds so know it well Yes a proper Apprenticeship with indentures and a 4 year course.On the job training and college.
Kids today are offered and do an Nvq over a few weeks.Cant be done no way in that time.
Not their fault need to blame the Governments.

4 year course, you youngsters don't know the half of it.

In my day it was a 5 year apprenticeship followed by an improvers, learning year, and a 44 hour week.

Dezi

 

[mariesnowgoose]

The focus for kids today is to go to Uni to study anything from Engineering right down to Underwater Basket Weaving but get to Uni whatever the cost.

... and no guarantee of a job at the end of it nowadays, more's the pity.

 

[mickymost]

4 year course, you youngsters don't know the half of it.

In my day it was a 5 year apprenticeship followed by an improvers, learning year, and a 44 hour week.

Dezi

Dezi
Youngsters lol what age do you think I am
mmm it was 43 years ago when I did my Apprenticeship.The 4 years was the basic course then I had to do a Year advanced Trade totalling 5 years.I was classed as an improver from the start of my apprenticeship and yes 45 hours a week was the Norm being 9 hours a day Monday to Friday 7am until 5pm (no paid hour for dinner either) and most Saturday Mornings we also had to work not asked but told.

 

[Fazerloz]

I was reading a motorcycle mag today from May 1959 and they were saying how teenagers had such an easy time of it.

 

[mark61]

See.

Don't ask Boomers .

 

[Tookey]

I was reading a motorcycle mag today from May 1959 and they were saying how teenagers had such an easy time of it.

Every generation does it

"That's nothing, I had calluses big as grapes from swinging that pickaxe for 18 hrs a day by the time I was 5, although didn't know what a grape was then, only fruit we ever saw was apples and they had to be thieved, we had to prevent scurvy after all."

 

[antiquesam]

It's all a question of finding younger folk where the skills have been properly transferred down the line.
Unfortunately these days that's a bit like looking for hen's teeth, or rocking horse s**t.

Well done you

Some how I think that has been said down the centuries along with "I remember when ..............." but things still manage to go on.

 

[RichardHelen262]

I don’t see how they make a living at that price if they have used good quality materials and done the mot,
I do my own servicing and only use genuine parts and good quality oil, and my parts and oil alone come to more than that.
It would be interesting to see a breakdown of the bill

 

[mariesnowgoose]

Some how I think that has been said down the centuries along with "I remember when ..............." but things still manage to go on.

Very true, Sam.

You know you're getting ancient when you start to sound like your parents

Still, doesn't mean that everything we bemoan is down to our advanced years or resistance to change.
I certainly appreciate modern conveniences along with everyone else. I'm not a total Luddite.

A lot of skills and ways of life that have been lost to 'progress' - whether you consider the progress to be good or bad - would still be valid and useful today, especially as we are squandering the planet's limited resources at an ever increasing rate of knots.

We need to be making things durable rather than 5 minute wonders that end up on a scrap heap or in landfill somewhere.

The only major durable we seem to be extremely good at producing is plastic waste. It will not end well.

 

[st3v3]

I don’t see how they make a living at that price if they have used good quality materials and done the mot,
I do my own servicing and only use genuine parts and good quality oil, and my parts and oil alone come to more than that.
It would be interesting to see a breakdown of the bill

Oil/air filter and oil only I suppose. And non-genuine, which IMO is perfectly fine. One hour labour, MOT fee from VOSA is only something like £2, then contribution to overheads.

That sounds about right to make a living, and not be greedy.

 

[mickymost]

I don’t see how they make a living at that price if they have used good quality materials and done the mot,
I do my own servicing and only use genuine parts and good quality oil, and my parts and oil alone come to more than that.
It would be interesting to see a breakdown of the bill

You got me thinking.Our garage which we find so reliable and trustworthy charge £60 a hour labour and an mot is now £55.00 so thats £115.00.It would take at least an hour to do a Service and Mot probably more.Our garage keeps an hour spare for Mots i/e we have to book in 1 Hour timeslots if we take both our cars for an Mot on the same day. So if Dezi was only charged £114.99 all in including materials for Mot and full service I dont see how it can be done and to make any sort of profit.

 

[st3v3]

You got me thinking.Our garage which we find so reliable and trustworthy charge £60 a hour labour and an mot is now £55.00

The bloke on the spanners is probably only paid 10 quid. The garage only pays £2 to VOSA for the MOT. 2 filters and oil maybe 50 quid, (trade costs maybe even less)

Total COSTS less than 65quid. So 50 quid to be distributed between profit and overheads in 1 man hour. Still sounds reasonable to me.

 

[Dezi]

There are several small, but reliable garages in the local area that charge anything from £99 to £175

for a basic service and MOT.

This year I just had the basics because of the current situation I had not used the Murvi much.
Next year hopefully with a long trip or two behind us, it will be more.

c'est la vie

Dezi

 

[Dezi]

Dezi
Youngsters lol what age do you think I am
mmm it was 43 years ago when I did my Apprenticeship.The 4 years was the basic course then I had to do a Year advanced Trade totalling 5 years.I was classed as an improver from the start of my apprenticeship and yes 45 hours a week was the Norm being 9 hours a day Monday to Friday 7am until 5pm (no paid hour for dinner either) and most Saturday Mornings we also had to work not asked but told.

You sound like some young 60 year old whippersnapper still full of getupandgo, bloody annying.

Dezi

whippersnapper is derived from the terms snipper-snapper and whip-snapper. A whip-snapper was a seventeenth-century term for a young man with nothing better to do than to hang about idly snapping a whip. = Sound familiar ?