rout to spain

mr potatohead

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:confused: We are off for our first wild camping trip to the continent next month and I am a bit concerned aboout the cost of the tolls ,can any one sugest a rapid yet toll free rout down to Spain?
 
Cant help with the tolls but just take care where you wild camp because this year they will try and make you go on a campsite and if you dont they will fine you if your sleeping in your motor :have fun::cheers:
 
Not sure where the fine for camping in your MH comes from.

However, if you want a quick route to Spain (Med) you go down the Autoroute via Lyon, this is expensive €170.00 approx.

Not so quick but a lot cheaper, go via Rouen, and over the Millau Bridge, Autoroute but many are free, cost around €60.00

If you dont want to pay at all, stick to the N roads, your going to have to look at your map, as the numbers have changed, this will cost you time, and possibly a little more fuel, as you do a lot of stop start through the towns.

Personally, I now do the Millau route, and during the afternoon, we go a wandering down the N, and D roads, once we have put some mile underneath our belt.
 
steco1958 said:
Not sure where the fine for camping in your MH comes from.

However, if you want a quick route to Spain (Med) you go down the Autoroute via Lyon, this is expensive €170.00 approx.

Not so quick but a lot cheaper, go via Rouen, and over the Millau Bridge, Autoroute but many are free, cost around €60.00

If you dont want to pay at all, stick to the N roads, your going to have to look at your map, as the numbers have changed, this will cost you time, and possibly a little more fuel, as you do a lot of stop start through the towns.

Personally, I now do the Millau route, and during the afternoon, we go a wandering down the N, and D roads, once we have put some mile underneath our belt.
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The fine for sleeping in your motorhome comes straight from the horse,s mouth the Guardia Civil if you told to move on to a campsite just move to a some other village or fined were all the lorry's are parked up lucky Friday night the Guardia Civil came to the beach were my friends and i were fishing but lucky it was my stepson come to get some money left his at home again thats the last time i we tell him were i am fishing 50euros i wont see again.:mad:
 
Sorry forgot to say when you get to Spain and if your near Alicnte let me know i will sort some safe places fore you to park up. Safe Travel :cheers:
 
have to agree with ***** on this one . i dont know a truck driver that uses sat nav. maps are king. driven all over europe asia and africa . maps are the best. and addresses, you can ask show, look here . but give a gps and nobody knows . good maps are the best .aa philips .michelin etc ,if you like an area get a good local one . best for touring spain and portugal is the cepsa touring mapamax.
but do call n see ken . he is a good old boy . i do when i,m down there. nice parking close by . i know where.
 
route to spain

we have just come back from benidorm in the car.
n road to valencia then the A7 then the A23 all the way up past teruel and passed zarragoza up towards the somport tunnel (new stretches of A23 around sabinaningo).
from the somport tunnell oloron st marie, i then head up to salies de bearn and dax then onto the n10 up to bordeaux.
the n10 up to piotiers.
pick up the a10 from poitiers to tours (11.9 euros) N10 up to chartres.
N154 ans a154 and N15 up to rouen.
A28 up to abbeville and the A16 up to boulogne (7.7 euros)

it works for me and the stretches of toll roads avoid loads of traffic lights and roundabouts.

good luck
 
kenspain said:
Cant help with the tolls but just take care where you wild camp because this year they will try and make you go on a campsite and if you dont they will fine you if your sleeping in your motor :have fun::cheers:
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This is a new one on me, being fined if you sleep in your motorhome. I have overnighted many times in the Alicante region & never had any problems. Is this something new? has a new law been passed?
I carry a copy in English & Spanish of the law passed in 1998 from the Ministry of the Interior in Madrid stating that a motorhome is classed as any other vehicle when parking, whether there's anyone inside it or not, as long as there's no awning, steadies or furniture etc. out.
Last year I was staying at a beach car park in Albir, when a Guardia tried to move me on, I showed him the Spanish version with the relevant bits highlighted & that shut him up, I stayed there 3 more days.
I have not been to the south of Spain since this time last year & are dying to know if anything has changed as I am about to set off for another 8 week trip.
Any advice would greatly appreciated.
 
Hi, When in the motorhome we always treat the travelling to a destination as part of the enjoyment of the trip.

As such we try to avoid motorways. In France the "Bison Fute" scenic routes can add to the enjoyment of getting from Ato B & avoid some of the jams.

Bison Futé Website - FAQ

Use the menu on left of page for maps.

Dezi :pc:
 
spigot said:
This is a new one on me, being fined if you sleep in your motorhome. I have overnighted many times in the Alicante region & never had any problems. Is this something new? has a new law been passed?
I carry a copy in English & Spanish of the law passed in 1998 from the Ministry of the Interior in Madrid stating that a motorhome is classed as any other vehicle when parking, whether there's anyone inside it or not, as long as there's no awning, steadies or furniture etc. out.
Last year I was staying at a beach car park in Albir, when a Guardia tried to move me on, I showed him the Spanish version with the relevant bits highlighted & that shut him up, I stayed there 3 more days.
I have not been to the south of Spain since this time last year & are dying to know if anything has changed as I am about to set off for another 8 week trip.

Thanks for the info Spigot where can I get a copy of in English & Spanish of the law passed in 1998 from the Ministry of the Interior in Madrid stating that a motorhome is classed as any other vehicle when parking?

Arumba
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route to Spain

try the N154 and N10 and N20 all good roads no tolls. In Spain after Lannemazan road to Vielha I think A230 which runs to Lleida all free no tolls. Also the tunnel at Vielha is free!
 
hi. instruction08/v-74 .does work . you do have to be strong and may get arrested .i did near aguilas but after being took off to a police stastion got brought back o the van . that was soon after it came out.in 2008. have used it a few times since. there are leaflets that go with it heres one.itys issued by one of the m.home clubs in spain .put it in your window it keeps the cops at bay. but dont use level ramps .chairs etc outside. if on a slope put wedges in front of your wheels if over 3,500kg its law on steep slopes.
 

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All i can do is to post on here what i am told ever one knows they make the laws up as they go along, there has been many letters from campsite owners and locals that every summer car parks are taken over by motorhomes in some areas the locals have taken photos of motorhome owners emptying loo,s down the storm drains, even my Spanish friends and I have been getting some stick when we go away for the weekend. But believe me if you P them of waving bits of paper under there nose you will know It, for me as some one said just put it on the windscreenwere they can see it. Only a few weeks ago i got stooped with my scooter on the back of my motor which only last year i paid out nearly 900 euros to make it legal because the p--tt thought i was taking the P by showing him about 6 bits of paper, showing him i had made it legal
tried to fine my on the spot when i refused he took me to the nick about 20min drive away I sat there waiting till the boss got in to see the papers before he let me go but not as lucky as VW Alan i had to get a taxi back. But all you have to do is come of the beach at night and back in the morning easy. Slowly they are making places to stop and sleep in the motors over here but you might have lorry's parked with you. Anywhere inland you should not have any problems. :cheers: safe travels
 
hiya ken .we all look forward to your tips aswell. we know you have connections .hee hee ......see you later aligater.
i bet they think your as trouble causer .they know i am. ha ha .
 
kenspain said:
All i can do is to post on here what i am told ever one knows they make the laws up as they go along, there has been many letters from campsite owners and locals that every summer car parks are taken over by motorhomes in some areas the locals have taken photos of motorhome owners emptying loo,s down the storm drains, even my Spanish friends and I have been getting some stick when we go away for the weekend. But believe me if you P them of waving bits of paper under there nose you will know It, for me as some one said just put it on the windscreenwere they can see it. Only a few weeks ago i got stooped with my scooter on the back of my motor which only last year i paid out nearly 900 euros to make it legal because the p--tt thought i was taking the P by showing him about 6 bits of paper, showing him i had made it legal
tried to fine my on the spot when i refused he took me to the nick about 20min drive away I sat there waiting till the boss got in to see the papers before he let me go but not as lucky as VW Alan i had to get a taxi back. But all you have to do is come of the beach at night and back in the morning easy. Slowly they are making places to stop and sleep in the motors over here but you might have lorry's parked with you. Anywhere inland you should not have any problems. :cheers: safe travels
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I understand the problem, if I go back to a nice little spot I've used in the past & find 8/12 MHs parked there, I'll blow it out & move along the coast to a place where I'm on my own. There is definitely not "safety in numbers" in this game. I remember a couple of years ago, we were parked at the south end of the beach at El Campello in front of a posh block of flats along with another 40 odd motorhomes, of course the old bill turned up & moved us on, if I had one of those nice appartments & it looked as though a load of gyppos had turned up, I would have done the same thing.
Same thing happened at Calahonda, a load of 'vans in front of smart holiday villas, same thing was bound to happen.
If one keeps a low profile, don't park in front of anyone's property (the Spanish don't mind, its the expats that get the hump), just keep the 4 wheels touching the road & nothing else. you will be able to stay almost anywhere & get away with it.
 
hi ***** .the game is letting the authorities know you can stay there .then move on . i once got a letter or statement by the govnor of tiznet allowing me to park wild in tiznet province of morocco. it took a few hours . then we left . i still use the letter it still works . but dont let authority bully . they work on fear . not necasarily common sense. life is only a game .
 
vwalan said:
hi. instruction08/v-74 .does work . you do have to be strong and may get arrested .i did near aguilas but after being took off to a police stastion got brought back o the van . that was soon after it came out.in 2008. have used it a few times since. there are leaflets that go with it heres one.itys issued by one of the m.home clubs in spain .put it in your window it keeps the cops at bay. but dont use level ramps .chairs etc outside. if on a slope put wedges in front of your wheels if over 3,500kg its law on steep slopes.
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I have got this notice this notice for the M/H windscreen, it could help in some instances. I have it in my documents, if anyone wants a copy, PM me your email, I'll send it & all you've got to do is print it out.
 
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