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Theres an article on the online practical motorhome website entitled " endless seasons ".The author ( it would seem to be an editor ) of the article criticices the use of a car park at Spurn Head Humberside by "wildcampers " and Querys who "these people" are.He also encourages anybody coming across "these people " to put them straight or get in touch with him.I,ve sent in a reply and would encourage others to follow suit.I object to the use of a national magazine which should cater for all motohomers to air a private opinion.

please send in a reply to that forum.
 
Stevek, You're going to have to be more specific as to where on the forum you've seen this.
I've checked out "General" on that site, but can't see it??
 
Go onto their website and from the Home page click on Caravan news which will bring you to it.
 
hi stevek, i'll check out the sight too.
it would be sad if the"the wildcampers" ended up being treated as badly as the tinkers and gypsies of this country. they were and are herded into sites and a rich cuture is being lost to us.what's this great need for conformity with some people?maybe they're jealous of a free spirit being let free.
 
Two sides to this and I am sure we all have horrid tales
Here in the Western Isles and Skye, Mull & Tiree wild camping is tolerated and, in some areas of Lewis,Harris, the Uists and Barra is actively supported by the Local Authority....they even produce an information leaflet advising where water. showers & toilet facilities are available.

But, I lived for some years in Torquay and "wild camping" for some meant...a row of overnighters in the area of the sea front reserved for the disabled - overnighters in Torbay Hospital carpark, two on one occasion in the parking area of my local church (one of whom then wrote to the local paper complaining that the bells for a 10am. service woke them up.)
It's the old "common sense and respect thing".

Perhaps the editor of Motorhome had had a bad day...perhaps the local caravan sites knew who he was and complained, but his reaction was, fortunately for us, not too typical
 
Originally posted by sagart@Mar 30 2006, 09:45 AM


Perhaps the editor of Motorhome had had a bad day...perhaps the local caravan sites knew who he was and complained, but his reaction was, fortunately for us, not too typical
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unfortunately it is becoming more common

and it is restrcting the sites available to us to wild in.

people do not like anyone who does not conform to their views and become vocal in "rights"
it should be our right to use land bought by public money. forrestry and council etc land bought by tax money raised on us therefore belonging to us.
we should have a system of aires in this country like the continent but I bet the campsite owners woiuld not like it and they have money so I bet our views would be overruled by their lobby should free overnight aires be proposed.
I know that campsite owners are not all greedy just like all wilders are not dumpers of rubbish
 
although scotland has a law allowing wild camping,more areas are being decorated with posts saying "no overnight parking". i ignore most of the signs as i've never been able to see a reason not to park overnight,there's no one else there after all, so what a waste of good space.
one article that i read and agreed with pointed out that many spots that councils are putting out of bounds ,are in fact places that travellers have overnighted in for hundreds of years and more, places of natural shelter,water supplies or points of river crossings.the writer did say that a basic difference in those bygone days was that traveller's protection would be a rough blanket and a wee dram and now we're generally a bit more comfy .so lets tell the councils to save our money for more deserving causes,filling in pot holes possibly.maybe a pot of paint would be more effective.
 
Originally posted by irenerobbie@Mar 30 2006, 07:18 PM
although scotland has a law allowing wild camping,more areas are being decorated with posts saying "no overnight parking". i ignore most of the signs as i've never been able to see a reason not to park overnight,there's no one else there after all, so what a waste of good space.
one article that i read and agreed with pointed out that many spots that councils are putting out of bounds ,are in fact places that travellers have overnighted in for hundreds of years and more, places of natural shelter,water supplies or points of river crossings.the writer did say that a basic difference in those bygone days was that traveller's protection would be a rough blanket and a wee dram and now we're generally a bit more comfy .so lets tell the councils to save our money for more deserving causes,filling in pot holes possibly.maybe a pot of paint would be more effective.
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what more can I say.
if they spent as much money providing spaces as they do restricting them they would attract more people to the towns and villages and more money would be spent in those same towns and villages.
short sighted and only concerned with their little bit of percieved power
 
Ok, here we go. Dive in L.K.

I just discovered this site via a link from another.

I'm from across the pond and intending to visit you all after I retire.

I find this discussion most interesting since I will visiting on a shoe string. The more I can spread my $ out the more places will see my smiling face and whatever rig I'm using.

I will be travelling as solo human, but hopefully will have a mid-sized canine companion. I sure hope 'wild camping' is still easy to do when I get there.

:)
 
Whilst I agree with most of what has been said here there are a couple of points to take issue with in previous posts.
Irenerobbie "the wildcampers" ended up being treated as badly as the tinkers and gypsies of this country. they were and are herded into sites and a rich cuture is being lost to us"
Having had to visit these Wild sites that these tinkers have used, I just cannot agree with that at all. Thankfully I am now retired so I don't have to go anymore but if I said that you wouldn't let your dog run round let alone your children you must get the impression, I don't include Gypsies as in truth there are very few of the race left. Its people like that, that has the Government and General public anti Wildcamping.
I am sure we have all stayed in spots that show the signs that give us a bad name. Whilst the article writer has generalised to much and no doubt has to placate his advertisers, sadly some of what he says is true.

PhilJ
 
after doing 10,000 miles in the last nine months[o.k not so very far] i haven't witnessed any wild campsites with excessive rubbish/ scrap .i would accept that i have a romanticed view of many things and i like it that way. what i wish for others, is to live as they please, without being judged .obviously ,i ve seen a few "tips "left after a travellers encampment but the councils spend plenty cleaning up other messes , industrial for example. i cann't see a few motorhomes being put in the same category as travellers encampments but i have met the "get off my land" types who seem to want to chase everyone away good ,bad or anything in between.
 
You say "I haven't witnesses any wild campsites with excessive rubbish/ scrap". " Excessive" there just shouldn't be any! I'm all for live and let live but there is no excuse for leaving rubbish behind, as I intimated in my last post no wonder we get a bad name.

Phil J
 
i never leave rubbish under any circumstances and often take away other's garbage. to suggest that wild campers get a bad name from excessive or small amounts of rubbish i feel isn't the point.the point is that some people are inflexible to others choice of life style and just like to excert a little bit of what they think of as " power" over others.do you think some wild camping would make them chill out?
 
I suppose "they" would counter your arguament with "would you like somebody parked on your property", I suspect the majority of people would answer no. The trouble is that a few spoil it for the majority.

PhilJ
 
Philjohn ,the majority of the sites posted on this forum are on public land,which is what makes the whole thing annoying.I questioned under what authority they were being moved?It certainly wouldn,t be obstruction ,It,s most certainly in my view its the pressure for finance from private sites.

With regard to the litter thing I dont know if Ive got the wrong impression but my original point was that it wasnt motorhome owners that would leave the rubbish which is the annoying thing because its used as an excuse against motorhomers.As a camper and backpacker believe me I leave a sight cleaner than when I arrived.
 
Steve,
I agree wholeheartedly, the point I was making wasn't that it was motorhomers (although I am sad to say its not so true of our compatriots the tuggers), the point I was making was in counter to the generalisation that "travellers" were being persecuted unnecessarily. I apologise if I upset any fellow homers, and whilst I agree that the majority of sites are on public land, does it not show good manners to ask about land your not sure of, why cause aggravation. Anyway happy camping.

Phil J
 
To me wildcamping is about the feeling of freedom. Booking into sites and being parked up in rows is not.

"Where ever I park my van, thats my home"
 
Originally posted by philjohn@Apr 13 2006, 07:01 PM
Whilst I agree with most of what has been said here there are a couple of points to take issue with in previous posts.
Irenerobbie "the wildcampers" ended up being treated as badly as the tinkers and gypsies of this country. they were and are herded into sites and a rich cuture is being lost to us"
Having had to visit these Wild sites that these tinkers have used, I just cannot agree with that at all. Thankfully I am now retired so I don't have to go anymore but if I said that you wouldn't let your dog run round let alone your children you must get the impression, I don't include Gypsies as in truth there are very few of the race left. Its people like that, that has the Government and General public anti Wildcamping.
I am sure we have all stayed in spots that show the signs that give us a bad name. Whilst the article writer has generalised to much and no doubt has to placate his advertisers, sadly some of what he says is true.

PhilJ
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PJ
I have no wish to contrdict what you say and i believe that there should be no rubbish left at all I have to say something in the travellers defence. we know some travellers up in Scotland. they are in their 70's and you could not meet nicer or cleaner folk. some of them own several hotels and are very wealthy but still travel. We are now part of their family and we love to be considered that way.
my issue would be that if you treat them like animals and move them on, even from their own bought land, because they wish to live in a van and move around then you can only expect them to behave "anti socially"
If they were made to feel to be part of society even tho they have a different way of life they may well behave far better although it would take many years to change them now.

many of us fulltime in vans many more want to.

what would be the difference between us wildcamping and a traveller camping wild.........


absolutely none

except we don't leave rubbish

but how do the general public know that till we have left......

and nice to see you around Phil.....
 
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