Plans that will 'boost to the economy of the South Hams' by allowing allow motorhomes and camper vans to stay overnight in nine car parks have been ba

Canalsman said:
Way too expensive!
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£10-£15

Was how I read it....

Without wanting to open the whole hand wring of some folks...

An awful lot of places have gone through the roof price wise over the last year or so....

Perhaps IF enough folks find it too expensive and don't take them up on staying they MAY rethink the price....

No chance of them doing that IF areas don't bother TRYING to accommodate us...

Frankly there a lot of places that I'd be happy to pay £15-20 to be able to stay at without a possible knock at the door...

In fact all of the places I've stayed 'wild' I would've been happy to pay for even without facilities...
For me peace and quiet and no hassle is a bargain at pretty much any price.
 
mistericeman said:
£10-£15

Was how I read it....

Without wanting to open the whole hand wring of some folks...

An awful lot of places have gone through the roof price wise over the last year or so....

Perhaps IF enough folks find it too expensive and don't take them up on staying they MAY rethink the price....

No chance of them doing that IF areas don't bother TRYING to accommodate us...

Frankly there a lot of places that I'd be happy to pay £15-20 to be able to stay at without a possible knock at the door...

In fact all of the places I've stayed 'wild' I would've been happy to pay for even without facilities...
For me peace and quiet and no hassle is a bargain at pretty much any price.
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I agree, Fife up here started charging £10 for two of their carparks.
But I do think that £10 should be the max for a simple parking space.
And I would be happy to pay the £10 charge, but not £15.

We are heading to North Berwick for one nights WC, then heading to Dunbar CCC site, all the usual facilities for £48 for two nights. So for an additional £9 you get EHU, showers, chemical waste, fresh water, etc.

I do think also that any monies collected should be ring fenced to improve and provide facilities.

I am sitting in the middle here, not where I usually sit, :) but I see and agree with both sides here. What’s important is it’s better than barriers and signage.
 
Fisherman said:
I agree, Fife up here started charging £10 for two of their carparks.
But I do think that £10 should be the max for a simple parking space.
And I would be happy to pay the £10 charge, but not £15.

We are heading to North Berwick for one nights WC, then heading to Dunbar CCC site, all the usual facilities for £48 for two nights. So for an additional £9 you get EHU, showers, chemical waste, fresh water, etc.

I do think also that any monies collected should be ring fenced to improve and provide facilities.

I am sitting in the middle here, not where I usually sit, :) but I see and agree with both sides here. What’s important is it’s better than barriers and signage.
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Quite agree Bill.

£10 would be reasonable for Slapton. They need to make more of the potential economy benefits in my opinion.

I stayed at Slapton recently for 3 nights (on a site). During my stay I spent £400ish - that was in the pub, in the village shop, in the supermarket and at the local garden centre. It doesn't take too many people spending in local facilities to make a substantial contribution to the local economy.
 
I agree with others, way too expensive for a car park. However I bet there will be no shortage of punters.

To put it into perspective, leg one of our grand UK tour was two months in the south west exclusively using the CL network. All of them fabulous with the basic facilities, great views, very quiet, acres of space and priced between £5 and £10 a night. Would I swap that for a car park between 6pm and 8am? I think not! :(
 
If parking is all that is to offer then the overnight parking fee should be inline with the going rate for parking there, Or maybe cheaper as few cars would be paying to park overnight. That would be the logical view (but we are dealing with Councils 😀) Obviously they think they are doing Motorhomers a favour.
 
yeoblade said:
If parking is all that is to offer then the overnight parking fee should be inline with the going rate for parking there, Or maybe cheaper as few cars would be paying to park overnight. That would be the logical view (but we are dealing with Councils 😀) Obviously they think they are doing Motorhomers a favour.
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Sorry BUT I don't agree OR think that will ever happen...

Do you expect cheaper food etc in a shop because its out of hours....

IF you want us to be accommodated in town/city centes/honey Pots...
OR Frankly anywhere...

Expect to be treated as a commodity...

It's just how it is...

Fish and chips at my local chippy is cheaper than at the seaside/honeypot...
Because its a desirable location...

There are a lot of places that aren't so desirable where food/parking etc is frankly a heap cheaper...

It boils down to are you willing to pay x for y...

IF not then find somewhere else that's cheaper...
IF places allow managed overnight stays for what seems expensive to YOU...
Then give it a while.... Prices will either level out OR they will become places to avoid...
Simple market forces...
 
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yeoblade said:
If parking is all that is to offer then the overnight parking fee should be inline with the going rate for parking there, Or maybe cheaper as few cars would be paying to park overnight. That would be the logical view (but we are dealing with Councils 😀) Obviously they think they are doing Motorhomers a favour.
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What is the going rate.
Theres an old saying that your house is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Now if folk are willing to pay £15, then that is the going rate, if not then it’s to expensive and not the going rate. I have decided that £10 is as much as I would pay for a parking spot, but if others want to pay more that’s their choice.
 
First there should be no 2 days unless a £10/15 pounds fee is charged, remember some working folks have to park their cars in daytime, £5 for one overnight say 7pm to 7am week days, two day stays at £10/15 fri night to sat or sunday seems ok.
 
If you stay overnight and stay for the day at such as – Torcross Tank Car Park (restricted to coach bays only), Torcross (£15)+ i would assume £11.50 for the coach bay through the day that's £26.50 for 24hrs parking. Whether anyone thinks that is ok is up to them.
 
Fisherman said:
Motorway service areas are charging £24 to park for the night.
Crazy.
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That I think is a 'put you off price' but there did seem to be one or two set up in Wetherby Services near empty car park when I popped in to find how far ahead the A1M was closed on seeing the sign "after the A639". Junction numbers are much more of a guide when travelling solo.
 
There is a long way to go before any UK local authority gets it right for us. First off they need to appreciate we bring money to the local economy and it is insufficient to just provide a parking space in a car park without facilities (water and a loo drop) and charge £10-15 to sleep in a parking bay. Second they need to understand that that a van full of hooligans will think nothing of paying (or even not paying) and dropping the contents of the loo at the edge of the car park. it is foolish for the local authorities to assume this will not happen, so that problem is almost of their own making. Third, we need to understand and expect that, as in popular coastal places in Europe, campers are banned from parking in towns in the high season as there are too many. As we know, generally the solution there is to provide water, a drop point (in some cases electric as well) and charge a pifflingly small amount of money. The local authorities could learn and profit if they chose to, but alas they are greedy and expensive Mayflys .... here today and gone tomorrow.
 
Odd how Powys council can allow parking in many of their car parks for free but other councils want to charge a typically higher than reasonable fee to do so.

If they genuinely wanted to deal with inappropriate parking then offering a free or minimally priced approved alternative would seem the correct thing to do.

Compared to the cost of many a CL these charges are high, yet the locations still carry all the risks of car park parking i.e. obnoxious other people treating parked motor caravans as targets for their anti social behaviour etc.

So I hope the high charges will reflect some obligation to ensure an overnight stop can be had peacefully.
 
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Not 4 us.
A) cost with no services
B) maybe get disturbed
C) hours so extra cost and inconvenience ( We atr often only ready to go at say 9:30 AND we like to park up md afternoon.
D) space

Yes the above can be ignored fpr a 1 night "emergency" stopover.
Ps we have used many carparks in variois countries.
Such time restrictions never (almost) applied.

£15 for a Uk aire type is just ok
Content to pay a tenner.
Yes supply and demand is relevant but for us minimal demand.
CL or CS sites please
 
I have just returned from 5 weeks to France, Belgium, Luxembourg (diesel currently €1.71 / litre), Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Italy and on average spent €0.16 per night on parking fees. That was because I spent three nights at Wursburg at a paying Stellplatz. At three places that were free I was supposed to pay €1 for 100 litres of water but one place the machine was faulty so I got the water without having to pay. At one place the toilet disposal machine was €1.
I have maintained for years that it is cheaper to pay the ferry fee to go to Europe than it is to stay in the UK. I bought a new Pilote some years ago and in the owners manual it explained that the French Government did a survey in the early 70s which concluded that it was a good thing for the local economy to allow motorhomes to park in town overnight.
As for parking in the UK overnight in a car park with no facilities I can't see a reason why the hourly rate should be any more than the daytime rate. I guess the local camp site owners (who can't be on the council committee that decided this) will be upset that they are losing customers at their £40 a night fields.
Anyway I wish the council success, they are brave, taking on the possibility of having to spend hundreds of thousands of pounds getting rid of undesirables. I believe the French don't have that problem - I was told that if travellers arrive en mass, the Police come along with guns and bulldozers. That wouldn't be allowed in the UK : Human Rights don't you know.
 
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