Plan to ban coastal camping in Lincolnshire

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Driving along the Lincolnshire Coast yesterday, I bought a local paper (East Lindsey Target) which had the front page headline "Plan To Ban The Car Park Campers". I know that many members like to use some of these spots, so I've found a link to the article online:

Plan to ban coastal car park camping in Lincolnshire | This is Lincolnshire

When I last visited these places, last year, I found that some of them looked like unofficial campsites, with numerous campervans that seemed to be settled in for a long term stay. There was plenty of outdoor furniture and "toys" around the vans, and the noise from several generators running during the day. A lot of these spots had public toilets nearby, but at least half of them were overflowing, probably blocked with too much campervan waste, and the floors were flooded. I heard several day-trippers complaining about them in the short time that I was there.

I couldn't help thinking that it would only be a matter of time before something had to give, and I've seen a few comments on here about height barriers appearing at some of these places in the past few months.

I was only passing through the area yesterday, so out of the six places mentioned in the article, the only one I called at on this trip was Huttoft car terrace. This place still seems to be tidy and unspoiled at present, with no barriers, although it does have the prominent old "No caravans or overnight camping" sign (or something like that) at the entrance.

The online article does allow comments, but maybe the evidence that I saw last year has played right into the hands of the local council, residents and campsites?
 
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got a m8 who lives near there and he says at least 1 of the vans has been at huttoft since last summer ,which dont help
 
An interesting quote from the article is "LCC says they won't be putting any further height restriction barriers in place and are not trying to discourage day trippers from using the sites".

I have heard of plans to put height barriers up st Huttoft. I wonder if LCC will or will not put the barriers up.

I personally get very annoyed with the putting up of height barriers. Luckily, i am in a position to have a choice of vehicle when going out for the day, but I tend to use the motorhome if we decide to go out as a family. I know some members who only have the one vehicle which they use as their main form of transport as well as their leisure vehicle. How do they go on if wanting to go to the Lincolnshire coast for the day. The article even mentions someone in a Landrover Discover having problems (please do not go in to the 4x4 debate).
I would even argue that this is discrimination?

Having said all this, I fully agree with the first poster in the that we as 'wildcampers' aren't helping matters when spending several nights in one spot, with chairs out and gennys running.

I'm sure none of our members do this, but we have all seen it being done by other motorhomes.

Do we approach these vans and pass comment?

Im not sure what can be done, but I do feel something has to be done before a blanket 'No Overnight Camping' comes in to force!
 
I made a similar point on another thread & was accused of "using commonsense" as apparently that does not exist in a council environment, and having worked in such an environment for a few years, I would be inclined to agree.

My view is that a charge of a fiver a night plus sensible waste collection facilities would help police the area in a manner that would encourage visiors & discourage abuse. Sadly, I doubt that the policing would be cost effective, but it could be "blitzed" for a season & then return to a more realistic level once the message is out.
 
I agree, I think that all councils should order hundreds of picnic tables.............. Preferably from me!:D
 
There are 2 sides to this.

Yes, there are vans which stay long term at Huttoft, Moggs Eye etc. The couple of times I used it (couple of nights at a time) I found these owners to be decent enough and acting responsibility. Obviously there will be a few of the obnoxious type that can spoil it for everybody.

The state of the toilets cannot be put down to motorhomers. When I was there, the Moggs Eye toilets had been badly vandalised. The presence of motorhomes may even have prevented the idiots from doing this in the first place.

The second side to this is that it could be altered for use by motorhomes. The basics are already there (water and toilets). For a reasonable charge, the Council could have a nice little earner. As was said, charge for the service and police it heavily until it settles down into a useful facility which is respected.
 
In the words of Lloyd Grosman,'lets consider the evidence' toys lying around and generators is more a trademark of new age/Irish travelers.
 
Unfortunately we have no easy way of distinguishing ourselves from other types of "traveller" in Joe Public's eye so we all get tarred with the same brush.
 
This is all down to the Selfish Herberts that set up camp for days on end and even a couple of weeks at a time in some cases.

All for the sake of saving a few quid because the tight bar stewards won`t pay for a site.

The genuine ones that just want an odd night somewhere like that will then suffer as well.
 
I’ll stick my two pence in also if I may..

I wouldn’t say I’m a regular but I have over the last several years spent several enjoyable nights at Huttoft and spoke to several that are regulars there.
What I mean when I say regulars is those that seem to be permanently dug in.
I think there are three regulars, the ones I have spoken to have property close by and rent it out during and out of holiday season hence there continued presence at Huttoft..
Never found the toilets dirty but it would be nice if a water tap was fitted somewhere so we could top up our fresh water tanks also if the bins could be emptied more regular.
I would gladly pay to stay no problem at all if all above was sorted..

Aspire255
 
Maximum stay of 24 hrs with no return in 48 hrs nothing outside the van surely this would be the answer
 
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Just spent a night at Huttoft - first time visit - great place to stop. It would be a shame if they put height barriers up. I noticed that one van must be a permanent one, as there was no road tax on it!! I can't remember if this was the one that had 2 very large gas bottles outside.
There was no litter about & looked like the bins hadn't been long emptied.
When we came away I noticed that one of the "residents" had put a load of rubbish in one of the bins (of which there are many), & was busy emptying bottles of (? no idea what could have been waste water) just on the sand next to the bin - at least is wasn't while there were any day visitors.
 
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Hello Jenny,

You were recently at this place and seem to have a very good idea of what's going down. I was wondering whether you were able to ascertain that the "residents" mentioned were , in fact, Irish?

The assumption seems to have been made. Can you confirm?

Btw, about the chairs and toys -
do you know what gorgers or buffers sit on when they're out?

Our lot usually get sneered at for sitting on the grass. :confused::D


sean rua.
 
The problem with Huttoft is the height barrier at Moggs Eye. Now that's in place it's pushed all the motorhomers and campervanners over to Huttoft, which in turn means that more of the parking area is taken up leaving less room for the day trippers and dog walkers.

This in turn, will get the car drivers moaning to the council about "bloody gyppos" taking all the parking, and probably raping their daughters, eating their dogs and stripping their cars for parts etc while they're on the beach!!!

This moaning and local residents opposition, will mean the council will have to do something. Oh yes, a height barrier!!! Now we can have the car drivers but not the nasty unwashed traveller type motorhomers, ugh!!

It's all irrelevant anyway, it won't be long before they build a nice new bird observatory on two thirds of the Huttoft parking area so "birders" can look at what's flying around their nice new SSSI coastal country park which used to be Moggs Eye, wolla Bank, Chapel six Marshes and everything going back to nearly skegness!!!

And yes, I have stopped over at Moggs Eye and Huttoft, at least twice a year depending on work committments. It is, or used to be, a nice area to chill out for a night or two. I agree it gets busy in the holiday season and there are regulars there who have stayed for a long time. but it seems the council would rather have their day trippers and night time boy racers and druggies in these parking areas than motorhomers who just want to enjoy the views and cause no damage.
 
This SSSI lark is just a scam. It has been used extensively on the Northumberland coast as well.

It is much cheaper than drawing up new byelaws.

In fact in Northumberland they would like to stop overnight angling. That would certainly cause an outcry from all over the UK.
 
Google Huttoft bird observatory, there are pictures of what the proposed observatory is going to look like.

I always thought they could'nt put a height bar at Huttoft as they need access for boat launching?

It would be a shame to lose it, but as has been said before, sometimes we are our own worst enemies!
 
Huttoft/Moggs eye

Hi instead of moaning on here lets all email the council's giving our veiws i.e Max 48hrs no awnings ect it's ok in europe why not here.
Let Lincolnshire County Council be the first to lead the way in having aires in this country [ am i dreaming ]
If they hav to police the no camping whats the difference in policing an aire

abforfun:help:

Mail the council
 
If you check out the link in the OP, read the article then read the comments. There are a couple of comments suggesting just that, an aire type place along the lines of the european system.

I think it is probably likely to fall on deaf ears as there's too much vested interest in camping and caravan sites in the area. Some of which are probably owned or operated by members of the council.

Why would they vote for an aire when they have a perfectly good campsite you could stay on, for a price of course.

No harm in trying though!

Anybody know who the honourable members are??
 
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abforfun said:
Hi instead of moaning on here lets all email the council's giving our veiws i.e Max 48hrs no awnings ect it's ok in europe why not here.
Let Lincolnshire County Council be the first to lead the way in having aires in this country [ am i dreaming ]
If they hav to police the no camping whats the difference in policing an aire

abforfun:help:

Mail the council
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That`s a very good idea.........however........i see a problem.

What do we do about the Rules Are Meant To Be Broken Brigade

It`s the likes of them that spoil it for everyone else.
 
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