Petrol

[izwozral]

Could apply to some older MH's.

Warning to drivers of petrol cars The price of petrol could significantly increase for around 700,000 motorists in the UK from September, as new rules come into place. It means people with older vehicles could pay as much as seven pounds extra for every tank of fuel they buy. It comes as petrol stations and garages across the country begin selling eco-friendly fuel E10 petrol, which replaces the current standard, E5. E10 means petrol contains up to 10% renewable ethanol. To date, petrol in the UK has contained up to 5% renewable ethanol (known as E5). E10 petrol is already widely used around the world, including across Europe, the US and Australia. Newer vehicles should have an ‘E10’ and ‘E5’ label close to the filler cap showing the fuel they can use. Owners restricted to using E5 Petrol will probably see their fill up costs significantly increase. It's important not to use E10 fuel in older cars as it can corrode brass, copper, lead, tin, zinc, rubber, plastic and fibreglass, all of which can be found in older cars. Classic cars and cars built in the early 2000's are most at risk.

 

[Catchic]

This is so ironic.
So their eco friendly will cause me to have to replace my otherwise perfectly serviceable 21 year old car?
Hardly environmentally friendly is it?
Can't make useless ideas like this up.

 

[trevskoda]

The e5 used to eat fuel lines in my old soda, so i replaced them with up to date hose which cost about £5, dont panic it wont do as much harm as they would have you believe.
Biggest problem is it sucks water like hell so dont leave it in lawnmowers or boat engines, drain the tank and carb after use.

 

[bartman]

You can check your vehicle's compatibility here https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-e10-petrol
It also very helpfully tells you that E10 petrol should not be used in your diesel car. Anybody who needed to know that can pop their driving licence in an envelope and send it to those nice people at the DVLA

 

[Nabsim]

Another stupid environmental initiative. How much harm does it do transporting used chip fat and other stuff across the world to refine and put in our cars. Absolutely idiosy

 

[SquirrellCook]

When you mix fuels you have to maintain the stoichiometric ratio or the standard engine will be damaged. Another chemical will be used to maintain this ratio. If it doesn't already yet another chemical such as acetone will be required in bind the ethanol to the petrol. These "other chemicals" are secret and even a friend in the industry can't find out what they are. I expect it's these chemicals than do the damage.

 

[ChrisInNotts]

+1 for what Trev says. Leave E5 for any length of time and you get a slug of water at the bottom of tanks and in fuel systems. E10 will be worse. Regularly used vehicles are unlikely to suffer though I suspect (in addition to fuel hoses) some fuel pumps may suffer. The biggest problem I have found is tank linings on motorbikes. They were designed to be petrol proof but E5 has resulted in two of my bikes having problems from bits of lining breaking off.

Keith