Petrol motorhomes?

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Been listening to a fair amount of people talking about petrol engines coming back into the fold more and more.
Jeromy Vine had a programme on radio the other week about diesels being dirty and talking again about petrol engines .
ARE WE ABOUT TO SEE MORE PETROL POWERED MOTORHOMES COMING BACK INTO PRODUCTION?
What would you do if you were going to renew your van ? Would you even consider a petrol variant?
 
Never!! Diesels are so much more reliable and produce the torque required to drag a shed around behind. So many diesel cars will be disappearing off the road in years to come,I doubt a niche vehicle like the MH is going to have much effect on the environment. The next logical step from diesel must be electric imo,going to a petrol would just be a backward step.
 
As long as LPG is readily available, it could be an option. Lots of American RV are petrol. My next van will be much smaller, so I would say yes, I would consider petrol.
 
Might be ok for smaller stuff but as soon as you go over 3t you’ll need a hell of a powerful petrol engine to pull it along the road and that’s when economy goes out the window when you get to 3000cc and the gearing torque is different for a commercial or mh pulling all the time the gov will lead us all to petrol and five year later start the same **** as they’ve done with diesel and tell us to go electric think ide stick with diesel for now especially with the euro 6 engines and there maybe somthing round the corner that’ll make diesels greener like new exhaust systems
 
I think that hybrids may be an interim until electric takes over. The trouble is that motorhomes are very weight critical, and batteries tend to be relatively heavy.
 
The laird said:
Been listening to a fair amount of people talking about petrol engines coming back into the fold more and more.
Jeromy Vine had a programme on radio the other week about diesels being dirty and talking again about petrol engines .
ARE WE ABOUT TO SEE MORE PETROL POWERED MOTORHOMES COMING BACK INTO PRODUCTION?
What would you do if you were going to renew your van ? Would you even consider a petrol variant?
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VW dropped the Petrol engined Transporter years ago for the UK Market (available elsewhere always though) but have recently introduced it due to demand
I changed my diesel car to a petrol last July as fed up with the higher running costs and complexity of the diesel and would certainly consider a modern petrol powered camper.
 
If you live in a LEZ then you have to consider changing to petrol or buying a euro 6 diesel.

There are more and more LEZ's springing up, here and abroad.

It is not worth buying a dirty diesel.

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Have a look Manufacturers Websites in the USA at 3.5 ton delivery vans and the petrol engines that are available already in Transits etc, The Dodge Ram Cargo standard engine is petrol a 3.6-Liter V6 24-Valve VVT engine its basically a Fiat Ducacto. 2017 Ram ProMaster(R) - Multi Purpose Work or Cargo Van If diesels get banned or priced off the road what other options do you have if you want to have a MH. I would have petrol now if they were easier to find.
 
Fazerloz said:
Have a look Manufacturers Websites in the USA at 3.5 ton delivery vans and the petrol engines that are available already in Transits etc, The Dodge Ram Cargo standard engine is petrol a 3.6-Liter V6 24-Valve VVT engine its basically a Fiat Ducacto. 2017 Ram ProMaster(R) - Multi Purpose Work or Cargo Van If diesels get banned or priced off the road what other options do you have if you want to have a MH. I would have petrol now if they were easier to find.
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How very interesting!
 
Essentially Euro 6 emission standards are the same for derv or petrol engines in the light commercial range. Unsurprsingly fuels are often designed to pass emission tests, hence we saw damage to old diesels when low sulphur diesel was introduced and very poisonous additives needed to replace lead in petrol that pass through the particulate filter standards.

The big difference between the two types of engines is the gap between max torque and max horsepower, petrol engines in general still have quite a narrow torque rise, hence the proliferation of 6 or 7 speed gearboxes in cars to keep the engine turning in the useable power band (max torque to max hp). Diesels (again in general) have a higher torque rise and nowadays its not uncommon to have a 6 speed gearbox in a weight of vehicle that 20 years ago had a 13/18 speed gearbox.

Tesla was touting a 42T prime mover - BUT not declaring how much it would weigh, until they can get battery powered trucks tare weights down below the current diesels and with ranges in excess of 1000kms I don't see much future for electric commercials.
 
You will be fine if buying diesels for the next few years,after that rd duty/ins will force new units of the rd.
Electric motors are here now and a few trucks and plenty more will hit the rds in less than 5 years.
The lecy units will have well over twice the torque and an easy range well over 300 mls,dont panic.
But do remember,no ex pipes to replace,clutch cam or fan belts,injectors and all the other crap that goes along with the internal combustion engine,all you will have is smart electrics which you already have in modern vans/cars,as for battery life vw and tesla have now re est life to be nearly 40 years which is way over what most vans/cars ever last due to rust which is the long term killer,now anyone for buying shares.:banana:
 
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Fazerloz said:
Have a look Manufacturers Websites in the USA at 3.5 ton delivery vans and the petrol engines that are available already in Transits etc, The Dodge Ram Cargo standard engine is petrol a 3.6-Liter V6 24-Valve VVT engine its basically a Fiat Ducacto. 2017 Ram ProMaster(R) - Multi Purpose Work or Cargo Van If diesels get banned or priced off the road what other options do you have if you want to have a MH. I would have petrol now if they were easier to find.
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Petrol is definately an option over there because of low fuel costs,with a motorhome body tacked on,and all the equipment we carry, they would be very expensive to run over here, compared to a diesel. Lpg may be an option but for a regular daily vehicle it's around 3 years to get your installation costs back, probably double that for a motorhome getting limited use each year.
 
Fazerloz said:
I would have petrol now if they were easier to find.
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Same for me, I looked for nearly 5 months but couldn't find a decent one. Diesels have always been smelly. noisy and smoky as far as I'm concerned. All this talk of being cheaper to run makes me smile, yes you save because they do more mpg but eventually you pay it back when the turbo goes or it fails the MOT on the emissions. The government fooled a lot of people by pushing them, then the manufacturers took advantage and the fuel companies started taking the pee by charging more for diesel than petrol even though petrol is far more refined. Before buying my MH I swore I'd never buy a diesel, each time I'm out in it and I turn up the radio to drown out the engine noise I wished it was petrol lol.

Regards,
Del
 
My MH has a petrol engine - Autosleeper Executive based on a Peugeot Boxer. I prefer it to my previous van which had a stinky diesel. The only drawback is that it does labour on the hills when I’m pressing on. So I just moderate my urge to go fast. After all, if You’re in a hurry a MH is the wrong vehicle to choose.

IMHO diesels wouldn’t have had such a bad rap if they weren’t bought by people who insist on using them inappropriately ie too many short journeys, then fail to keep them well maintained. There’s a chap near me who drives a Diesel Vauxhall Insignia private hire car. Every morning he starts it up then drives down the road away from HIS home and sits with the engine running, turning out noxious fumes and stinking the place out, until he gets a job. Dirty b@gger! Take them off the road I say :cool:
 
In the usa they also have gas induced diesels,so electronickly turning down the injector squirts and adding gas to the inlet they have managed to cut polutants down ,it may be in use here has anyone heard of this.
 
trevskoda said:
In the usa they also have gas induced diesels,so electronickly turning down the injector squirts and adding gas to the inlet they have managed to cut polutants down ,it may be in use here has anyone heard of this.
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Yes but there doesn't seem to be many bothering with gas on diesels, They recon on about 20% saving with gas fitted which would be a longer payback period. But if it cleans things up it could be a way to go. It would depend on how future legislation was written against diesels.
 
Seems to be some support for petrol motorhomes . How many mpg are they getting . Most petrol motorhomes a quiet old, new petrol engines are much more powerful than older ones .so could they make a comeback in motorhomes ,
 
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molly 2 said:
Seems to be some support for petrol motorhomes . How many mpg are they getting .
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That's a bit like asking how longs a piece of string. The same with diesels some less than 20 some claim more than 40.
 
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