Not at any price

[Pudsey Bear]

This may be the worst new van we've ever seen; even Liz couldn't find any good points, beyond the fridge/freezer & the sliding door behind the cab.

I was hoping the PVC might be better, but no, not really.

 

[Robmac]

I quite liked them Kev although the PVC seemed a little cramped.

I liked the bathroom arrangement for the Motorhome I thought it was cleverly thought out and gave loads of room.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

I thought both were little more than weekend vans due to a lack of easy-to-access storage. I'm not sure what the single bed is at the back, a lot of it would be on a delete list for us.

 

[Robmac]

I thought both were little more than weekend vans due to a lack of easy-to-access storage. I'm not sure what the single bed is at the back, a lot of it would be on a delete list for us.

I think that was just storage for the infill cushions Kev with a little more storage underneath.

I liked the fact that the bathroom could be cut off completely from the lounge thus isolating the cab area as well, so the remaining space would be much easier to keep warm.

It will be interesting to see the bigger versions.

 

[Boris7]

Have to say I hate them both with a passion.

 

[mark61]

Have to say I hate them both with a passion.

Not even going to put myself through watching it, but that seems a more than reasonable comment.

 

[Boris7]

Not even going to put myself through watching it, but that seems a more than reasonable comment.

Your right on the money there Mark.

 

[Robmac]

I would certainly do away with the drop down bed.

 

[marchie]

I would certainly do away with the drop down bed.

We have a drop down bed in our 5.99m Burstner A Class, Rob. The advantage is that we get a much bigger lounge area - at a squeeze, we could, in theory, fit 3 adults on the U shaped sofa in front of the kitchen area, 2 adults in the passenger + driver's seat, and 2 more on the sofa above the belly locker, behind the driver's seat.

The disadvantages of the dropdown bed include the weight; the need to have enough oomph in the leisure battery to raise and lower the bed, and the 'one out, all out' for the bathroom visit at 0300 ...

We've had the M/Home for nearly 5 years, and have spent almost 520 nights in it to date. It would be lovely to have a 7.5m Van with oodles of payload and space, but a) we would struggle to get it on our drive; b) we would struggle to keep it under 3500kg; c) we can squeeze onto Aires that longer Vans cannot fit onto. The latest was at Puerto Lumbreras on Friday, where the last pitch was in front of the 'Provided by the Town ...' metal plaque that is 3m high. The bottom of the sign was high enough to duck under to extract the cassette, but the bike rack was about 10-12cm from the metal sign - width of a gnat's knacker
territory ...

Steve

 

[Robmac]

We have a drop down bed in our 5.99m Burstner A Class, Rob. The advantage is that we get a much bigger lounge area - at a squeeze, we could, in theory, fit 3 adults on the U shaped sofa in front of the kitchen area, 2 adults in the passenger + driver's seat, and 2 more on the sofa above the belly locker, behind the driver's seat.

The disadvantages of the dropdown bed include the weight; the need to have enough oomph in the leisure battery to raise and lower the bed, and the 'one out, all out' for the bathroom visit at 0300 ...

We've had the M/Home for nearly 5 years, and have spent almost 520 nights in it to date. It would be lovely to have a 7.5m Van with oodles of payload and space, but a) we would struggle to get it on our drive; b) we would struggle to keep it under 3500kg; c) we can squeeze onto Aires that longer Vans cannot fit onto. The latest was at Puerto Lumbreras on Friday, where the last pitch was in front of the 'Provided by the Town ...' metal plaque that is 3m high. The bottom of the sign was high enough to duck under to extract the cassette, but the bike rack was about 10-12cm from the metal sign - width of a gnat's knackered territory ...

Steve

The trouble with the one in the video Steve is that it is above the rear lounge area which makes a large double in itself anyway.

Having the drop down bed above it though severely restricts headroom and I would be forever banging me swede even when not deployed.

 

[colinm]

I'm not sure what the single bed is at the back, a lot of it would be on a delete list for us.

I'm guessing that if the bed had been fully lowered then it would form part of a longitudinal bed, it being left in place when the bed is raised as it forms the top of the garage which is tall to accommodate bikes.

 

[marchie]

The trouble with the one in the video Steve is that it is above the rear lounge area which makes a large double in itself anyway.

Having the drop down bed above it though severely restricts headroom and I would be forever banging me swede even when not deployed.

That is 1 drawback, Rob. Ours is from the finish of the kitchen area running forwards to about 5cm shy of the end of the cab overhead shelf, to create a 198cm length double bed across the Van. The bed has a 10cm x 10cm Chamfer at the hab door to give full door width access, reducing the width of the bed from 136cm to 126cm. We have a 5cm deep Mattress Topper, so the headroom reduces even more to about 166cm, when I drop the bed by about 4cm to allow air to circulate so that the duvet is not like a fridge on Winter trips ...
It's a compromise, but one that we cope with relatively easily

Steve

 

[barryd]

I didn't watch it all but flicked through it. Whats the tiny bed for behind the rear lounge? Does that make up part of the drop down bed? I presume though that you cant have someone sleeping in the rear lounge bed and the drop down bed at the same time. If thats the case i dont see the point of the drop down bed apart from not having to make up the rear lounge bed.

Too small for me but so is the QE2.

 

[Robmac]

I didn't watch it all but flicked through it. Whats the tiny bed for behind the rear lounge? Does that make up part of the drop down bed? I presume though that you cant have someone sleeping in the rear lounge bed and the drop down bed at the same time. If thats the case i dont see the point of the drop down bed apart from not having to make up the rear lounge bed.

Too small for me but so is the QE2.

Yeah you can Barry, you can sleep 4 by deploying the drop down partly and using the lounge seats below but I reckon it would be claustrophobic. The tiny bed is in fact just the infill cushions for the rear lounge double plonked on top of the top of the garage for storage.

I THINK both beds are transverse though so those cushions/tiny bed are only for use to convert the lounge sofas double? (or possibly as infills at each end of the drop down).

 

[Robmac]

Dammit! Had to watch it again to see the bed deployed! Tis shown at the 10 minute mark.

 

[trevskoda]

So if only 2 people they have to climb over the sofa to get to bed.

 

[Robmac]

So if only 2 people they have to climb over the sofa to get to bed.

There is a ladder Trev, but no, you can convert the lounge seats to a double, although you can drop the bed fully down on top of them if you wish.

Like I say, I'd not want it.

 

[ProDave]

I have said it before, I really don't "get" the drop down bed. Out fixed king size over cab bed is always there ready to be used with no putting away. And I noticed she had to stoop a bit to walk under the raised bed.

 

[Boris7]

When we were first looking Mororhomes Trev we hired one for a week, after that week we came up with a list of requirements, First thing on that list was a permeant bed (or beds) with no climbing over anything or anyone to get in or out.

Second on the list was the ability to sit up in bed and read or have a cup of tea.

Since we bought some years back I’ve looked at many motorhomes and I’ve never changed my view, if I’ve got to pull a bed down and climb in, or if I can’t sit up in bed with a tea and a book then I’m just not interested.

Obviously we all have different wants and needs, but for me this will never change.

 

[Robmac]

I have said it before, I really don't "get" the drop down bed. Out fixed king size over cab bed is always there ready to be used with no putting away. And I noticed she had to stoop a bit to walk under the raised bed.

Exactly my point, I'd be black and blue trying to walk around after a few beers!