No gas today

molly 2 said:
Called at my local petrol station today to top up my lpg ,.sold out ,asked when they're expecting a delivery, no idea last time we ran out it took 2 months ???.
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Is anyone with a bulk tank for gas central heating having similar problems getting gas ?
 
I have just ordered a bigger gas tank for mine, as gas is getting harder to find.
As the little tanks Autosleeper fit only hold 20 litres
 
witzend said:
Is anyone with a bulk tank for gas central heating having similar problems getting gas ?
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Gas heating in homes will be stopping in about 4 years time, no new homes will be built with gas, electric is the way they want you to go, remember the sixties and storage heaters, that did not last to long as it cost about 4 times the price of oil or gas.
What this will mean is fewer places will store LPG for us, big tank and filling gear for sale here on facebook, no one wants it these days.
 
I will be looking to buy a van conversion next year, and initially I fancied the idea of LPG. I looked at wildax models who all use LPG.
But after doing some reading on the subject I decided against owing to what is likely to happen in the future. Some oil companies have stopped supplying LPG. The safety standards to be met at filling stations were recently changed meaning large investments to meet these changes.
I am sure that right now there are relatively no problems getting LPG but I am more concerned about the near future. Although I live near Glasgow my nearest supplier would be Morrison’s in Easterhouse roughly 12 miles away. On a visit there they informed me that they don’t sell much LPG, and that in future it’s possible that Morrison’s may discontinue supplying LPG.
I fully understand the obvious advantages of cost, flexibility of topping up supply, and improved storage. But weighing things up, and I may be wrong, I wont be buying a van with an LPG tank.
 
Uncle also found it harder to locate LPG as local Sainsbugs had run out - one to watch for the future.
What is the plan for the future?
Just this week I had an interesting chat with a young friend (34 yr old) who has recently built himself a sprinter based motorhome vehicle to house the family of 5 for motor racing purposes. He has installed a range of 240V items; Fridge, Microwave and Low Watt Kettle using a 2000W inverter with 2 x 110A leisure batteries to power the system - so far with no solar panel installed yet has found he can live a weekend on the batteries alone.
Thoughts about the installation.
As yet he has not installed a cooker but has a 3 ring gas hob. During the discussion we considering the LPG scenario and currently he has no major need to worry it seems.
Cooking alternatives?
What electrical options for cooking are their is my first question?
Cooling alternatives?
The fridge surprised me - he had previously used in the vehicle a small 12V one from a caravan but found it was too small and not very capable when using LPG or 12V, draining the batteries quickly in his opinion.
The use of the larger kitchen fridge seems to work well with not too much drain on the batteries in his opinion - I disagreed with this but afterwards began thinking about the practicalities and thought to pose the question to the Wildcamping fraternity of why not.

So gang - what are your thoughts?
 
Go all electric with a built in or underslung petrol genny.
We have 2x 11kg gasit tanks
Sp 40 litres amd more space available for petrol to run genny.
Induction hob or electric hotplate.
 
I like the idea of an under slung Genny and am considering this option myself. I favour the belt and braces approach.
Morrison’s Binley is a good price at the moment, with only 4000 litres storage they are prone to running out when demand is high.
 
Our shell garage told me that they have no control over lpg , they don't order it , no knowledge about deliveries , nothing to do with them.
 
Stanski said:
What electrical options for cooking are their is my first question?
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Only electrical cooking options are
1) EHU
2) Generator.

Using 12v and an inverter is not an option.


Stanski said:
Cooling alternatives?
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1) Absorption fridge running on LPG
2) Absorption fridge running on 230v from EHU or generator
3) Compression fridge running on 12v . With 2 x 110 ah batteries he will be OK for a weekend for anything longer he will need more battery capacity and/or solar.

Absorbtion fridge (including a domestic version) running on 12v is not a practical solution without a lot lot more battery capacity and/or solar.
Absorbtion fridge running on 230v via an inverter is not a practical solution without a lot lot lot more battery capacity and/or solar.
 
r4dent said:
Only electrical cooking options are
1) EHU
2) Generator.

Using 12v and an inverter is not an option.




1) Absorption fridge running on LPG
2) Absorption fridge running on 230v from EHU or generator
3) Compression fridge running on 12v . With 2 x 110 ah batteries he will be OK for a weekend for anything longer he will need more battery capacity and/or solar.

Absorbtion fridge (including a domestic version) running on 12v is not a practical solution without a lot lot more battery capacity and/or solar.
Absorbtion fridge running on 230v via an inverter is not a practical solution without a lot lot lot more battery capacity and/or solar.
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Or 230v with inverter for fridge, 24 hrs on twp 90ah batts, or this for your own gas station
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