New toilets Sannox Arran.

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Arran council this year installed new toilet facilities in Sannox. These replace the old toilets that fell into disrepair. They are not connected to the sewage, but a septic tank. There is a sign informing us that the toilet is not a chemical waste point, and where they can be located at blackwaterfoot and whiting bay. The toilet is located across the road from the cemetery towards the river. They are of use for those with no toilet facilities.
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Are they replacing the ones at the bay carpark or are they still there.

I was told it was cheaper to replace the bay toilet with this portacabin toilet owing to cost. This toilet is just behind the carpark across from the cemetery.

have a look at this article cale.

 
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Possibly admin may want to add this to POIs. I got the grid using viewfinder.
This is only a toilet poi no water.
 
Thanks for the information. However the Toilet POIs are sourced directly from OpenStreetMap rather than maintained by me ...
 
Toilet POI's ..
I think some need to be aware that in many cases emptying cassettes is not appropriate.
Clearly Sannox is one such example.
I am sure some will contest this and they are many factors. The 2 most important being (I think)
1 Mains or Septic Tank
2 The chemicals used in your cassette
 
Toilet POI's ..
I think some need to be aware that in many cases emptying cassettes is not appropriate.
Clearly Sannox is one such example.
I am sure some will contest this and they are many factors. The 2 most important being (I think)
1 Mains or Septic Tank
2 The chemicals used in your cassette

It's never acceptable in a public toilet in my honest opinion.
We do it when we get home if we are wild camping in our downstairs toilet.
But before emptying we put newspapers on the floor.
When finished the toilet is thoroughly cleaned and bleach put down the pan.
That is simply not possible in a public toilet.
Also there is no excuse on arran with two chemical waste points available.
But when folk get desperate thats when it gets dumped wrongly.
 
Toilet POI's ..
I think some need to be aware that in many cases emptying cassettes is not appropriate.
Clearly Sannox is one such example.
I am sure some will contest this and they are many factors. The 2 most important being (I think)
1 Mains or Septic Tank
2 The chemicals used in your cassette

The answer to 2 is: Don’t use these Harmful chemicals in your toilet in the first place.

I use Tesco Bio Washing Tablets, no stink, the interior of my cassette is spotless with no scale & I can tip the contents into any toilet, even dig a hole in the ground to deposit it.

Definitely a no-brainer.
 
The answer to 2 is: Don’t use these Harmful chemicals in your toilet in the first place.

I use Tesco Bio Washing Tablets, no stink, the interior of my cassette is spotless with no scale & I can tip the contents into any toilet, even dig a hole in the ground to deposit it.

Definitely a no-brainer.

Spigot, biological washing tablets are very harmful not only to the environment, but also to the plastics and rubber seal in your toilet. Using green chemicals reduces environmental damage, and are comparable with the plastics used in your toilet. But most importantly green chemicals don’t damage septic tanks, making it safe to empty them into toilets connected to them. Biological washing powder harms sceptic tanks, killing much of the good bacteria that maintains them.
My concern with emptying cassettes into public toilets is it’s difficult if not impossible to maintain hygiene standards for other users, and it is not what wcs are designed for. If locals witness such behaviour, then barriers and signage could follow.
 
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Spigot, biological washing tablets are very harmful not only to the environment, but also to the plastics and rubber seal in your toilet. Using green chemicals reduces environmental damage, and are comparable with the plastics used in your toilet. But most importantly green chemicals don’t damage septic tanks, making it safe to empty them into toilets connected to them.
My concern with emptying cassettes into public toilets is it’s difficult if not impossible to maintain hygiene standards for other users, and it is not what wcs are designed for. If locals witness such behaviour, then barriers and signage could follow.

Where did you get the idea that biological washing tablets are harmful to the environment?
It is possible that the enzymes contained in them may take longer to disperse but this has not been confirmed. They can also affect sensitive skin more than non-bio.
Also, I can’t see how bio tablets can affect the plastic or rubber, the interior of my cassette is spotless like brand new & the seal is perfect after ten years of using them.
As for using public toilets I have no qualms about this, most of them are in a revolting state anyway. I take in a 5ltr bottle of water, a small bottle of antiseptic & a handful of kitchen towels with the cassette.
When I have finished the loo is generally much cleaner than when I went in.
 
Where did you get the idea that biological washing tablets are harmful to the environment?
It is possible that the enzymes contained in them may take longer to disperse but this has not been confirmed. They can also affect sensitive skin more than non-bio.
Also, I can’t see how bio tablets can affect the plastic or rubber, the interior of my cassette is spotless like brand new & the seal is perfect after ten years of using them.
As for using public toilets I have no qualms about this, most of them are in a revolting state anyway. I take in a 5ltr bottle of water, a small bottle of antiseptic & a handful of kitchen towels with the cassette.
When I have finished the loo is generally much cleaner than when I went in.

My sister lives in a home connected to a septic tank, and cannot use certain types of detergent including biological as they destroy the bacterias within the septic tank. I have not found most public toilets to be in a revolting state. But I have witnessed residue from an emptied cassette on the WC wall and the floor of a public toilet that had been well maintained.

I have a thetford toilet and they don’t recommend any non standard chemicals particularly those with bleach being used. I use Elsan organic. A 2 litre bottle lasts a about a year and costs £11. I also use recommended silicone on the seal once a year.

Sorry but if a member of the public who knows little or nothing about us, and witnessed you leaving a toilet they may report it to their local authorities. I know for a fact this is an issue in the carpark in Brodick behind the coop next to the beech. Due to cassettes being emptied in the toilet there we are banned from that carpark overnight. And signage has been put up warning about emptying cassettes into the toilet.

as for the environment

 
The answer to 2 is: Don’t use these Harmful chemicals in your toilet in the first place.

I use Tesco Bio Washing Tablets, no stink, the interior of my cassette is spotless with no scale & I can tip the contents into any toilet, even dig a hole in the ground to deposit it.

Definitely a no-brainer.
Yes I do much the same but some others use bio unfriendly products !
 
My sister lives in a home connected to a septic tank, and cannot use certain types of detergent including biological as they destroy the bacterias within the septic tank. I have not found most public toilets to be in a revolting state. But I have witnessed residue from an emptied cassette on the WC wall and the floor of a public toilet that had been well maintained.

I have a thetford toilet and they don’t recommend any non standard chemicals particularly those with bleach being used. I use Elsan organic. A 2 litre bottle lasts a about a year and costs £11. I also use recommended silicone on the seal once a year.

Sorry but if a member of the public who knows little or nothing about us, and witnessed you leaving a toilet they may report it to their local authorities. I know for a fact this is an issue in the carpark in Brodick behind the coop next to the beech. Due to cassettes being emptied in the toilet there we are banned from that carpark overnight. And signage has been put up warning about emptying cassettes into the toilet.

It beats me how anyone can tell how mess in a public toilet can be from a cassette, it could be from some oik who’d eaten a Ruby Murray after a session on the real ale.

It seems some motorhomers need a lesson on emptying cassettes into toilets.
Push the spout right down the loo & push the release button at the same time as flushing.
No splashing, simples!

It is stupid to carry an uncovered cassette into a 🚾, some years ago a German advised using a large Lidl bag. One member on here, whose missus is a dab hand with a sewing machine ran up a cover resembling an attache case to use at motorway services.
I have used a travel bag & a rucksack in the past.
 
Spigot if I have annoyed you I do apologise.
never my intention.
I witnessed a man putting his cassette into a large shoulder bag.
He then grabbed a water container.
He then headed to a tap and filled the container with water.
he then entered the public toilet and came out with his water container empty, with his shoulder bag, took the cassette out and put it back into his van.
about an hour later I entered the toilet and the door to the wc was open, and I could see clearly a bluish spray over the wc the floor and the wall of the toilet.

This was two years ago in Musselburgh. A few months later barriers went up and signage. Not saying he was the reason, but I could have been a resident of one of the flats, or someone in the carpark or the beach who witnessed this.

When we do it a home my wife takes great care cleaning the toilet, we would not be able to do this out with the van.

Bottom line, although you are very careful, and clean after you, it just does not look good to non Motorhomers, some of whom have it in for us anyway.
 
Spigot if I have annoyed you I do apologise.
never my intention.
I witnessed a man putting his cassette into a large shoulder bag.
He then grabbed a water container.
He then headed to a tap and filled the container with water.
he then entered the public toilet and came out with his water container empty, with his shoulder bag, took the cassette out and put it back into his van.
about an hour later I entered the toilet and the door to the wc was open, and I could see clearly a bluish spray over the wc the floor and the wall of the toilet.

This was two years ago in Musselburgh. A few months later barriers went up and signage. Not saying he was the reason, but I could have been a resident of one of the flats, or someone in the carpark or the beach who witnessed this.

When we do it a home my wife takes great care cleaning the toilet, we would not be able to do this out with the van.

Bottom line, although you are very careful, and clean after you, it just does not look good to non Motorhomers, some of whom have it in for us anyway.

No offence whatsoever, that twat you’re talking about should be castigated for using that toxic blue stuff.

I try not to use public toilets but sometimes it’s a necessity.
 

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