New E - Borders Controls

I cannot believe this !:confused:
Here, on the continent frontiers are no more existing; you really must be an expert to notice when you cross the border between Belgium and Holland or any other 'Schengencountry'. And we don't have problems with Germans, French, Swedes, Portugeese, Norwegians ...
And the UK government on the opposite wants to draw the line and seeks more control over the own people ?:mad:
Of course, they (and we) are swabbing with the tap open. No one knows how many illegals only disapeared in the crowd the last years.
The first thing they could do is giving all normal, honest people a foolproof ID-card (= not a pasport !) like overhere. And then have systematic ID-controls to find the rotten apples. Then there is no need for a 'big brother who is watching' :mad:
 
Belgian if was only as easy as that, The Uk gov's immigratian and assylum policy is working exactly as planned the checking on our movements when we go abroad is so that they can monitor the English when we are out of sight of their CCTV camaras.
 
With a bit of luck Labour will be out soon and won't be able to lend any more money for these and similar ideas!

This will leave the Tory party with no money to do their stupid plans and LibDems will get nowhere as usual, so at the end of the day it will never happen!
 
It is absolutely frightening as what information they are requesting - here is a sample from the data fields required by immigration(even including description of baggage!)(there is far more than this):

Information specified to extent known by carrier: immigration
1. The passenger and service information is the following details in respect of a passenger—

(a) name as it appears on the reservation;

(b) place of birth;

(c) issue date of travel document;

(d) address;

(e) sex;

(f) any contact telephone number;

(g) e-mail address;

(h) travel status of passenger, which indicates whether reservation is confirmed or provisional and whether the passenger has checked in;

(i) the number of pieces and description of any baggage carried;

(j) any documentation provided to the passenger in respect of his baggage;

(k) date of intended travel;

(l) ticket number;

(m) date and place of ticket issue;

(n) seat number allocated;

(o) seat number requested;

(p) check-in time, regardless of method;

(q) date on which reservation was made;

(r) identity of any person who made the reservation;

(s) any travel agent used;

(t) any other name that appears on the passenger’s reservation;

(u) number of passengers on the same reservation;

(v) complete travel itinerary for passengers on the same reservation;

(w) the fact that a reservation in respect of more than one passenger has been divided due to a change in itinerary for one or more but not all of the passengers;

(x) Code Share Details;

(y) method of payment used to purchase ticket or make a reservation;

(z) details of the method of payment used, including the number of any credit, debit or other card used;

(aa) billing address;

(bb) booking reference number, Passenger Name Record Locator and other data locator used by the carrier to locate the passenger within its information system;

(cc) the class of transport reserved;

(dd) the fact that the reservation is in respect of a one-way journey;

(ee) all historical changes to the reservation;

(ff) General Remarks;

(gg) Other Service Information (OSI);

(hh) System Service Information (SSI) and System Service Request information (SSR);

(ii) identity of the individual who checked the passenger in for the voyage or flight or international service;

(jj) Outbound Indicator, which identifies where a passenger is to travel on to from the United Kingdom;

(kk) Inbound Connection Indicator, which identifies where a passenger started his journey before he travels onto the United Kingdom;

(ll) the fact that the passenger is travelling as part of a group;

(mm) the expiry date of any entry clearance held in respect of the United Kingdom;

(nn) card number and type of any frequent flyer or similar scheme used;

(oo) Automated Ticket Fare Quote (ATFQ), which indicates the fare quoted and charged;

(pp) the fact that the passenger is under the age of eighteen and unaccompanied; and

(qq) where the passenger is a person under the age of eighteen and unaccompanied—

(i) age;

(ii) languages spoken;

(iii) any special instructions provided;

(iv) the name of any departure agent who will receive instructions regarding the care of the passenger;

(v) the name of any transit agent who will receive instructions regarding the care of the passenger;

(vi) the name of any arrival agent who will receive instructions regarding the care of the passenger;

(vii) the following details in respect of the guardian on departure—

(aa) name;

(bb) address;

(cc) any contact telephone number; and

(dd) relationship to passenger; and

(viii) the following details in respect of the guardian on arrival—

(aa) name;

(bb) address;

(cc) any contact telephone number; and

(dd) relationship to passenger.

What is this country turning into?
 
I'm fed up with this big brother / police state country, I wouldn't trust the government as far as I could throw them, the sooner they are out the better, saying that will the next bunch be any better ? thinks we should start a wild camping party, we would probably do a better job.

Tom
 
Getting out of Russia during the Communist era was easier!!
 
oldiebutgoodie said:
It is absolutely frightening as what information they are requesting - here is a sample from the data fields required by immigration(even including description of baggage!)(there is far more than this):

Information specified to extent known by carrier: immigration
1. The passenger and service information is the following details in respect of a passenger—

(a) name as it appears on the reservation;

(b) place of birth;

(c) issue date of travel document;

(d) address;

(e) sex;

(f) any contact telephone number;

(g) e-mail address;

(h) travel status of passenger, which indicates whether reservation is confirmed or provisional and whether the passenger has checked in;

(i) the number of pieces and description of any baggage carried;

(j) any documentation provided to the passenger in respect of his baggage;

(k) date of intended travel;

(l) ticket number;

(m) date and place of ticket issue;

(n) seat number allocated;

(o) seat number requested;

(p) check-in time, regardless of method;

(q) date on which reservation was made;

(r) identity of any person who made the reservation;

(s) any travel agent used;

(t) any other name that appears on the passenger’s reservation;

(u) number of passengers on the same reservation;

(v) complete travel itinerary for passengers on the same reservation;

(w) the fact that a reservation in respect of more than one passenger has been divided due to a change in itinerary for one or more but not all of the passengers;

(x) Code Share Details;

(y) method of payment used to purchase ticket or make a reservation;

(z) details of the method of payment used, including the number of any credit, debit or other card used;

(aa) billing address;

(bb) booking reference number, Passenger Name Record Locator and other data locator used by the carrier to locate the passenger within its information system;

(cc) the class of transport reserved;

(dd) the fact that the reservation is in respect of a one-way journey;

(ee) all historical changes to the reservation;

(ff) General Remarks;

(gg) Other Service Information (OSI);

(hh) System Service Information (SSI) and System Service Request information (SSR);

(ii) identity of the individual who checked the passenger in for the voyage or flight or international service;

(jj) Outbound Indicator, which identifies where a passenger is to travel on to from the United Kingdom;

(kk) Inbound Connection Indicator, which identifies where a passenger started his journey before he travels onto the United Kingdom;

(ll) the fact that the passenger is travelling as part of a group;

(mm) the expiry date of any entry clearance held in respect of the United Kingdom;

(nn) card number and type of any frequent flyer or similar scheme used;

(oo) Automated Ticket Fare Quote (ATFQ), which indicates the fare quoted and charged;

(pp) the fact that the passenger is under the age of eighteen and unaccompanied; and

(qq) where the passenger is a person under the age of eighteen and unaccompanied—

(i) age;

(ii) languages spoken;

(iii) any special instructions provided;

(iv) the name of any departure agent who will receive instructions regarding the care of the passenger;

(v) the name of any transit agent who will receive instructions regarding the care of the passenger;

(vi) the name of any arrival agent who will receive instructions regarding the care of the passenger;

(vii) the following details in respect of the guardian on departure—

(aa) name;

(bb) address;

(cc) any contact telephone number; and

(dd) relationship to passenger; and

(viii) the following details in respect of the guardian on arrival—

(aa) name;

(bb) address;

(cc) any contact telephone number; and

(dd) relationship to passenger.

What is this country turning into?
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oh nothin to difficult then
i think i will have to turn into one of the mister men (mister invisible)
 
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