MPG Ducato Automatic?

[RSD7a]

We're replacing our PVC 3500kg. On our current manual version I get 27mpg urban and typically 33mpg touring.
What are typical real life figures for a 3500kg PVC Ducato Auto? Is it much worse?

 

[Fisherman]

We're replacing our PVC 3500kg. On our current manual version I get 27mpg urban and typically 33mpg touring.
What are typical real life figures for a 3500kg PVC Ducato Auto? Is it much worse?

I have the 2.2 180 auto on a 3.5t pvc and I am getting around 30-32mpg.
But I keep the van at max 60 mph, only going higher to overtake.
I would reckon the 140 might be a bit better.

 

[RSD7a]

Thanks. What's it like mpg-wise on urban only driving? Ours acts as a second vehicle so gets used around town between long trips.

 

[Mikebike]

We're replacing our PVC 3500kg. On our current manual version I get 27mpg urban and typically 33mpg touring.
What are typical real life figures for a 3500kg PVC Ducato Auto? Is it much worse?

We have 2021 140 2.3 and have done 20000 miles mainly motorway averaging around 60 mph and overall get 34 mpg but on a long journey get36 mpg.

 

[gasgas]

I have a 1999 automatic Transit. No emissions controls, just a mechanical fuel injection pump, no computers, hardly any electrics other than headlights and wipers (and starter motor). Loaded on tour I get 27mpg. I have seen knowledgeable technical people in MMM say that although all the modern computerised emission systems do reduce the exhaust emissions they sap the engine power considerably, meaning that in the end you get lower emissions and the same fuel consumption as if the emission kit wasn't there. So my guess is that you are going to get around 30mpg which seems typical of any motorhome or camper. Unless of course it is a 7mpg Yankmobile but that's just stupid. Their gas is more or less free so they don't care. And they don't have double taxation on their fuel. Did you realise that we pay VAT on the Fuel Duty?

 

[colinm]

Unless of course it is a 7mpg Yankmobile but that's just stupid. Their gas is more or less free so they don't care. And they don't have double taxation on their fuel. Did you realise that we pay VAT on the Fuel Duty?

In my experience (last time was 10 years ago) of hiring in the US it costs the same per mile to run a RV of similar size there as here, unless it's changed recently they tend to run inefficient engines with RV's built like brick £$%^ houses. In fact last time we hired in US whilst it cost about same when cruising, putting your foot down just resulted in more noise, a huge increase in fuel use and very little extra mph.

 

[Okta]

I am getting about 32mpg overall, mixed driving, from my 2.2l 140hp 9 speed 3500kg van. I will cruise at 70 in the right conditions. No reason for a modern automatic to be less economical than a manual, more gears and always in the right one. Probably more mpg from the auto than the manual.

 

[number14]

My PVC is a Renault Master with their Quickshift which is a manual with a box of tricks on top to make it automatic. Have to say it works very well especially coupled with the very torquey 170hp engine. The instrument panel display tells me that I am getting 34mph although, in reality, that's probably more like 32mpg.

TBH, I only keep an eye on the mpg figure as an indicator that all is well. If fuel consumption suddenly started creeping up for no apparent reason I would be looking out for some fault or other. My view is that, having spent multiple thousands to buy the van and then well north of £1000pa for tax, insurance and servicing, I don't worry about the cost of fuel. After all, at today's prices (say £1.40/l), the difference between 1000 miles at 32mpg and 28mpg is only around £28.

(PS Hope my maths is correct!)

 

[Scotia]

In my experience (last time was 10 years ago) of hiring in the US it costs the same per mile to run a RV of similar size there as here, unless it's changed recently they tend to run inefficient engines with RV's built like brick £$%^ houses. In fact last time we hired in US whilst it cost about same when cruising, putting your foot down just resulted in more noise, a huge increase in fuel use and very little extra mph.

The US gallon is also less than the UK imperial gallon.

 

[JQB]

I am getting about 32mpg overall, mixed driving, from my 2.2l 140hp 9 speed 3500kg van. I will cruise at 70 in the right conditions. No reason for a modern automatic to be less economical than a manual, more gears and always in the right one. Probably more mpg from the auto than the manual.

I think the robotised manual 6 sp ducato produced slightly better mpg thsn manual. It's all down to the right boot. I remember the Mobile Economy runs where skilled drivers achieved unheard of mpg and were strictly monitored so no cheating the figures.
Off auto topic, but we acheived 38.6 mpg on a 3200mile tour around the WaW, 4.5m 3.3t 2014 2.3 ducato manual. According to the computer that is, and given that the speedo reads 61/62 mph when the true speed is hgv speed 56mph who knows.
Speedo on our old ducato just the same