MHing restrictions in Portugal explained.

Scary stuff and his comments at the end are in concert with what goes on here.
I find it hard to believe that all of Portugal’s problems relate to misuse of campers and Motorhomes. But as we have seen locally in areas of the uk the same thing invariably happens, we get blamed for everything and we alone are dealt with.
East Lothian being a prime example up here.
This from an area where Portobello beech was so full last summer that social distancing was not possible, and hardly a Motorhome was to be seen.
Will this ever happen nationally in any of our four nations, well I hope not.
 
I still have issue with the wording. Staying overnight is defined as parked " with occupants" The poster says we will not be able to park on roads at all. It is ambiguous as the rule also defines parking "outside its perimeters" in the translation. Discussed this on another thread in more detail.
izwozral said:
What happened to Nigel's post?
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Did he remove it as an edit?
 
One thing for sure is in N Ireland folks do dump their trash anywhere, esp smokers drinkers and lots of car drivers turf their unwanted stuff out the window esp fag butts, carparks full of used mens things etc, fining is one thing but catching them is another and almost impossible unless a cop car is behind them, its a shame as it will not look good for folks coming here and spending monies.
 
REC said:
I still have issue with the wording. Staying overnight is defined as parked " with occupants" The poster says we will not be able to park on roads at all. It is ambiguous as the rule also defines parking "outside its perimeters" in the translation. Discussed this on another thread in more detail.

Did he remove it as an edit?
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Dunno, it was a good post I thought.
 
I read his post before posting myself.
Then when I finished his post was a blank.
I reckon Nigel decided to remove it himself.
It was edited at 10.41.
if it’s removed by the mods, nothing is left.
As I well know :cry:
 
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Thanks Ral.
It's been coming a long time.
Only the misbehaving gets reported you don't get dramatic photos of the aftermath of responsible Wildcamping
A shot of on smart unit, parked discretely, wouldn't earn anything for a professional photographer to sell.
So they go to where there's a number of haphazard Vans, surfer dudes, etc and take worst case shots.
These are sold to agencies.
Some of the pictures are years old.
That's what the public sees.
It reinforces perceived opinion.
Sad, but it's happened.
 
n brown said:
sorry about that . sometimes i think i get a bit ranty ,which can be a bit unfair .
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Read your post, I thought you gave an opinion based on obvious experience of wild camping in Portugal. I did not totally agree with it Nigel, but I thought it was an honest appraisal based on your personal experience, something I don’t have. My only Portuguese excursions not involving a Moho.
 
Pauljenny said:
Thanks Ral.
It's been coming a long time.
Only the misbehaving gets reported you don't get dramatic photos of the aftermath of responsible Wildcamping
A shot of on smart unit, parked discretely, wouldn't earn anything for a professional photographer to sell.
So they go to where there's a number of haphazard Vans, surfer dudes, etc and take worst case shots.
These are sold to agencies.
Some of the pictures are years old.
That's what the public sees.
It reinforces perceived opinion.
Sad, but it's happened.
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Well put, and sadly true.
 
n brown said:
sorry about that . sometimes i think i get a bit ranty ,which can be a bit unfair .
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Guilty. Me that is. Good to get stuff off me chest. Although, I'm not as quick as you at editing it out.
Ms Snowthingie, Is that what's called a coincidence ?
 
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