Lorry and maybe motorhome blind spot regulations

Derekoak

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The third paragraph says that by 2022, if we are still connected to Eu regs, lorries must be fitted with all round vision. This is so they can see dangers in their existing blind spots. Logic would suggest this will apply to campers too.
Hopefully they will then ban the victim blaming " if you cant see my mirrors I cant see you" stickers and the stupid similarly victim blaming, "Cyclists do not overtake this vehicle " which really means " I do not look in my Lh side mirror or signal before I turn left so keep out of my way". I would not mind if they said that as the police might take an interest.
 
After witnessing a car get side swiped by a truck on a dual carriageway,I was surprised when the cops turned up and attached no blame to the truck driver. The car was in his blind spot apparently,yet the driver should have known it was there,regardless of whether he could see it or not,and he also only indicated for a second or two before moving across. At least having all round vision will put the responsibility firmly where it lies.
 
Conversely, I was sat at a red light with lefthand indicator on, lights changed to green and I started to move off when a cyclist came up the lefthand side of me, I stopped in middle of the junction whilst the idiot continued to illegally pass on the inside, as a cyclist myself I was less than impressed.
 
colinmd said:
Conversely, I was sat at a red light with lefthand indicator on, lights changed to green and I started to move off when a cyclist came up the lefthand side of me, I stopped in middle of the junction whilst the idiot continued to illegally pass on the inside, as a cyclist myself I was less than impressed.
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Happens for to often, I see idiots going through red lights, swerving in and out of traffic and on and off footpaths daily around Harrogate. Yet generally the motorist is to blame for not seeing them, yeah right!! Same as on a night, there are to many that don't bother with lights front or rear, again very hard to see them and almost impossible when pulling up along side you.
 
My experience of driving a 7.5t lorry with two sets of wing mirrors, a downward mirror on the top of the nearside door and a downward facing mirror above the windscreen I didn't have time to look through the windscreen. I would imagine any new regs would only apply to new vehicles over 7.5t.
 
Derekoak said:
Page not found | The Guardian

The third paragraph says that by 2022, if we are still connected to Eu regs, lorries must be fitted with all round vision. This is so they can see dangers in their existing blind spots. Logic would suggest this will apply to campers too.
Hopefully they will then ban the victim blaming " if you cant see my mirrors I cant see you" stickers and the stupid similarly victim blaming, "Cyclists do not overtake this vehicle " which really means " I do not look in my Lh side mirror or signal before I turn left so keep out of my way". I would not mind if they said that as the police might take an interest.
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Obviously you have never driven a truck!
 
***** said:
All the Driver will now need are an extra few pairs of eyes.:scared:
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Quite. The new MH has 5 mirrors, fecking big blind spots so I need to try and track things in and out of them, needs me looking further up the road because it's too big to stop quick, passengers to keep an eye on, yet I'm to blame when an idiot undertakes when I'm indicating left.

I can't sympathise when entitled idiots who should know better expect everyone else to look after their safety when they carry on blindly because they're more important than everyone else.

I'll put my soapbox away now lol.

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I see the drivers have made it home from work and started posting. The cyclists will be here in about half an hour pmsl
 
The technology is there to have blind spot warnings for the driver without the need for cameras all round and screens. You don't need to actually see what it in in your blind spot in order to take action; you just need to know there is a potential 'thing' there and take appropriate action (which is probably to take NO action in fact)


I have "blind spot" warning lights that illuminate in my door mirrors that are a warning that there is 'something' there coming alongside me that I probably can't see in the mirror.
I am sure if this technology can be fitted in a Vauxhall Corsa, it can be fitted in vehicles costing a hell of a lot more!
 
Derekoak said:
I have actually . If you cannot see all round you , you are a danger on the road. By 2022 you may have to learn to be safe, it would not be before time.
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It is simply not possible to see all around you.
 
Shame the link don't work. Might have half an idea what it's all about. :)
 
st3v3 said:
I see the drivers have made it home from work and started posting. The cyclists will be here in about half an hour pmsl
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I’m a cyclist and an retired HGV mechanic and truck drivers have enough to do without watching for kamikaze drivers and cyclists. Blind spot mirrors and fresnel lenses help a driver but driving a 44 ton truck takes concentration and as the Highway Code states give way to the bigger vehicle.
Now someone else can jump onto the soap box.
 
Some interesting comments on here for people who clearly have never driven a large articulated truck. Truck drivers make mistakes, but cyclists going down the inside of an articulated truck is just so dangerous for them, but they keep on doing it.
 
What happened to the law that says it's illegal to undertake.......or have I been dreaming,?
Common sense....I know, a strange concept.....says that you don't try to undertake a big vehicle or overtake when one turns left. What's lacking is a bit of tolerance .....and getting out of bed before you need to be at work.:D
 
On my pushbike I have a gross weight of maybe 120kg so an argument with a 44 tonne truck never seems like a good idea no matter what sort of view they have. Bit surprised that so few cyclists agree with me at times.

Richard
 
***** said:
When I was driving back and forth to Spain and Portugal, Mrs G used to say that car drivers should, have to spend a few hours with a truck driver before they could sit their test
They just have no idea!
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Yes and many car driver should be made to do a motor bike test before getting a car licence,doing so would cut the amount of cars on our roads.
 
yorkslass said:
What happened to the law that says it's illegal to undertake.......or have I been dreaming,?
Common sense....I know, a strange concept.....says that you don't try to undertake a big vehicle or overtake when one turns left. What's lacking is a bit of tolerance .....and getting out of bed before you need to be at work.:D
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Signs often seen on the backs of trucks in Aus. "Passing side" and "Suicide",it sort of drives the message home.🚚
 
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