LETS PLAY SAFE

fattimmy

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ive been a lorry driver for 17years on/off and had lots of nights away from the middle of london too the mountains of scotland .so i hope some of these tips may help 1, if it dont feel right it usually aint right .2keep alow light in side or no light at all so you can see out .3park van very close to hedge so no one can walk round van .4 park in a puddle bigger the better. 5 have van ready to go.6 a good touch ie, 6 cell mag lite [in eyes of the law its only a touch]. 7 ive got wire rope across my doors but make shaw you know that you can get out quick just in case of an EMERGENCY ie fire.8 know where you are on the map [a very good map is a philip,s navigater around £20.00 from halfords]. 9 park down a dead end lane where possible you can count the cars that go by there should not be alot unless there is a pub down the lane but most will come past around 10.30 /11ish closeing time.10 when parking up look at the area if shops have shutters, gates big padlocks ,guard dogs .camera,s i would say not agood place move on. if any one else has any ideas write them down all tips welcome all the best safe camping.fattimmy :unsure:
 
a good one I have adopted
get those personal alarm things and fix them above doors or windows. get those sucker hooks and fix on to window. loop cord from personal alarn round hook. anyone tries to get in you will be woken by scream of personal alarm. employ torch round head of ear drum broken robbing b**********ds
 
I always reverse into position rather than drive in, it makes it easier to leave if you have to. We use a silver screen on the inside of the windows rather than the outside(fix on with suckers) this means there is no need to get out in the morning.Don't put gas or water containers outside for the same reason.I agree with your first comment. If it doesn't feel safe then it probably isn't.
 
like it or loath it i also keep a ciggy ligther and a can of body spray as a last resort for self defence near by when we rough camp we also have a domestic gas detecter fitted for any gas attacks always park with a clear exit too. we noticed most in spain rough camping have there dog with them too.. we will take both of our boxers for the 8 weeks stint in the summer... if the blood tests come back clear for the pet passport £ 300 later i think thats another posting sometime
 
HI,
ref. saftey, has anyone had any really bad experiances while camping in the u

mick
 
Originally posted by carman@Mar 1 2005, 02:12 PM
HI,
ref. saftey, has anyone had any really bad experiances while camping in the u

mick
only with officialdom. Not the police but the silly "jobsworths" who are given a uniform and think it makes them important.

a short story about a copper.
I was up near faslane naval base in a picnic area and 3 ft of snow Hogmanhay '02. 2 am [usual] and i heard his engine. I got out and spoke to him. "It's ok" he said nicely "but with the naval base we have to check up". I said where u from [having recognised the accent as being non scot] "Oxford" he said, " F**** me You're Lost" quipped I and then invited him in for a warming coffee. No problems.
I believe that the majority of attacks reported happen in the southern area's of europe. There is a massive debate on whether there is such a thing as a "gas attack" and I don't mean too many beans. It is up to you whether you believe it is an urban Myth or take precautions against this sort of possible attack. I personally reckopn that precautions against are wiser than sticking one's head in the sand [or anywhere alse].
I do not believe these fancy gas atrtack detectors work. I don't mean the CO detector, they are sensible, but thse sold at shows etc for silly money. If no one knows what gases are used how in hell can they make a detector for them.
Fortunately for me i have lots of low down gaps so a heavier than air gas would leak out as fast as it was put in and the skilight is always open so that takes care of the lighter than air possibility. a small 12 volt [ex pc ] fan also helps and it doubles as an extractor for the cooker too.
the doors and windows are locked from the inside [non key and came with the van] but only take a second to undo in case of emergency so the only way in is to break a window and I know of no way to stop that short of armoured glass.
plus the van is old and a home conversion so we look more like hippies than motorhome owners. so we dont look as if we have anything worth them nickin'.
If only they knew the van is better equipped than the house {she complains]
the only other alarm / deterrent is the dog. and she is as much use as a choccy teapot really.

final comments
If you are nervous then use a place that is well out of the way
or
park in company of others. Big hairy truckers all round you would seem to be a good deterrent too.
enjoy, take precautions, but don't let it spoil your fun
 
Gas attacks, the final word, some chance

This was posted on the "Out & About Forum" by Brian Kirby.

Don


"Since this debate rattles on from time to time, with much deliberation over how and what, I thought I'd try to get an expert view on the feasibility of using narcotic gases to knock out the occupants of motorhomes/caravans.

Since they do this all the time, so to speak, I thought I'd ask the Royal College of Anaesthetists. Somewhat to my surprise, they provided the following reply. Interesting isn't it? Sleep tight folks!

Dear Mr Kirby,

Thank you for your enquiry. I would like to inform you that you are not the first enquirer with this question. Professor Hatch, our Clinical Advisor, has given the following previous comments:

"I can give you a categorical assurance that it would not be possible to render someone unconscious with ether without their knowledge, even if they were sleeping at the time. Ether is an extremely pungent agent and a relatively weak anaesthetic by modern standards and has a very irritant affect of the air passages, causing coughing and sometimes vomiting. It takes some time to reach unconsciousness, even if given by direct application to the face on a rag, and the concentration needed by some sort of spray into a room would be enormous. The smell hangs around for days and would be obvious to anyone the next day.

There are much more powerful agents around now, some of which are almost odourless. However, these would be unlikely to be able to achieve the effect you describe, and the cost would be huge enough to deter any thief unless he was after the crown jewels. The only practicable agent is probably the one used by the Russians in the Moscow siege - I advised the BBC on their programme about this. The general feeling is that they used an agent which is not available outside the KGB!

Finally, unsupervised anaesthesia, which is what we are really talking about is very dangerous. In the Moscow siege about 20% of victims died from asphyxia, because their airways were unprotected. If the reports you talk about are true I would have expected a significant number of deaths or cases of serious brain damage to have been reported."

I hope this information is helpful to you.

Regards,

Ms Shirani Nadarajah
General Administrator

Professional Standards Directorate
The Royal College of Anaesthetists"
 
Well thats from the professionals, it can't be more positive than that. Lets hope it stops all the "urban " myth thing and gives the companies selling so called alarms food for thought. Refunds perhaps..................
 
Well done DonMadge, I always wondered why it was always someone who had met someone who knew someone who had been gassed and robbed!!
 
Pardon.....

I must admit that I'd never heard of this gassing malarky until about 3 months ago!
 

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