Info for Parking for 6.3m PVCs etc

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I asked Mendip District Council what the situation is for parking an oversize vehicle in their bays: they said just buy two tickets. At least that's clear. Anyone know how common that is nationwide or if there is any centralised info?
 
EarthDemon said:
I asked Mendip District Council what the situation is for parking an oversize vehicle in their bays: they said just buy two tickets. At least that's clear. Anyone know how common that is nationwide or if there is any centralised info?
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If your wheelbase is in the space , which in most cases it will be , you are only using one space
 
EarthDemon said:
I asked Mendip District Council what the situation is for parking an oversize vehicle in their bays: they said just buy two tickets. At least that's clear. Anyone know how common that is nationwide or if there is any centralised info?
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They are mentioned to provide space for one right and one artic in all carparks by eu regs. But when I took Ballymena council up on this I still got fined,for 45bucks it was better to pay up rather than go to court.
 
alcam said:
If your wheelbase is in the space , which in most cases it will be , you are only using one space
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I thought if you invaded the space next door with the footprint of the vehicle they can nick you if they feel like it.
 
If it's a 6.36m XLWB x250/290, then you will find the wheels fit some parking spaces, but not many. I know some areas allow the body to overhang, as I've queried it, but am not sure it applies everywhere.
 
Reading over the years, it seems that every council has its own policy. You can either check with every council you want to visit, or park around the edges of a car park. There are usually flower beds or grass borders you can overhang. Not come unstuck.........yet.
 
colinmd said:
If it's a 6.36m XLWB x250/290, then you will find the wheels fit some parking spaces, but not many. I know some areas allow the body to overhang, as I've queried it, but am not sure it applies everywhere.
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Not totally sure but if I got a ticket for that I would certainly contest it . I do my best not to overhang other spaces but sometimes it is impossible . Park a lot in Edinburgh city centre and I've never been booked for this .
p.s. it is difficult to avoid tickets in Edinburgh
 
hairydog said:
I suspect that it may vary from place to place, but mostly, as long as your wheels are in the space, the overhang doesn't matter.

My 7.4 metre van's wheels just fit into a standard parking space, but the space behind is more than half full of overhang. Parking considerately, you would not park that way, but parking legally, you have to.

If you look round any car park, the majority of cars hang over one end or the other: cars have got bigger over the years, but spaces haven't.
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Hmm, the plot thickens - I came out at 9.03, paid and displayed (parking restrictions started at 9.00) to see a warden in the car park, I moved my 5m Discovery to a more convenient place - when I came back a few hours later it was ticketed. Either he did me for the body hanging over into the next bay by less than a foot - or he nicked me for being 3 mins late, watched me move it, pay and display and then slapped a ticket on the car once I had gone. The time of offence according to the ticket was 9.17 so it all points toward no overhang allowed in the district of Mendip.
 
EarthDemon said:
Hmm, the plot thickens - I came out at 9.03, paid and displayed (parking restrictions started at 9.00) to see a warden in the car park, I moved my 5m Discovery to a more convenient place - when I came back a few hours later it was ticketed. Either he did me for the body hanging over into the next bay by less than a foot - or he nicked me for being 3 mins late, watched me move it, pay and display and then slapped a ticket on the car once I had gone. The time of offence according to the ticket was 9.17 so it all points toward no overhang allowed in the district of Mendip.
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Ticketed at 9.17 would imply offence occurred at 9.17 . The offence will be on the ticket . Don't pay , appeal
 
Reasonable behaviour (Both ways)

My thoughts are..

That it is unreasonable to take up 2 spaces and only pay for one.
It maybe that your wheels only occupy one space but your overhang may well take up at least half of the space behind.

So pay up..and expect to be treated reasonably
I also put a note in the windscreen to say I have paid 2x and take a photo of it !.
It then becomes unreasonable to be issued with a ticket !
Thus if I do get a ticket I have evidence to support an appeal
I checked with the attendant in one locationand he said that was OK.

I appreciate the rules & regs will vary from council to council (bad enough)
The interpretation of them can also vary due to "Mr Grumpy" being on duty (even worse)

If you can park in one space and your Overhang is over grass or the like then yes only 1 ticket
 
My understanding is that if your arse end is overhanging into the bay behind you then you are also occupying that bay so it needs to be paid for as well.

I agree that the majority of car drivers are useless and many of them straddle 2 or more bays but they don`t seem to get penalised.
 
Wooie1958 said:
My understanding is that if your arse end is overhanging into the bay behind you then you are also occupying that bay so it needs to be paid for as well.

I agree that the majority of car drivers are useless and many of them straddle 2 or more bays but they don`t seem to get penalised.
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Not sure you are correct about this (the overhang not the car drivers) . Certainly never been penalised for it . Some say it varies from area to area ?
Perhaps but possibly a legal definition out there ?
 
if i overhang a second bay i buy two tickets, if i didnt id be worrying about a fine, taint worth it for the cost of the xtra ticket. same if im towing.
 
What if it is a car park that is not free, and it is not a pay & display, but requires a permit to use? do you need to display two permits?
Northumberland uses a Parking Disc system where you have to display a parking disc showing time of arrival - should I show two discs to show I have bought two (at a grand one-off cost of £1.00 each a couple of years ago)
 
alcam said:
Not sure you are correct about this (the overhang not the car drivers) . Certainly never been penalised for it . Some say it varies from area to area ?
Perhaps but possibly a legal definition out there ?
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I think there is a parking enforcement regulation that states that no wheels must not be wholly outside the marked parking area (as opposed to the whole vehicle within it) but I don't know if any of these regulations are actually mandatory or just recommendations Car Park Owners/Managers can chose to work to or use their own?

This maybe of interest to the Laptop Lawyers .... https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/Contravention_code_list_v6_7.pdf


PS. Code 10 is interesting: 10 p Parked without clearly displaying two valid pay and display tickets when required
Maybe that is the typical offence when taking up two spaces with an overlong vehicle and only paying for one space?
 
I did a fair bit of online research a few years back, at that time .gov had guidance for parking in England and Wales, and that didn't define if the whole vehicle or just the wheels needed to be inside a bay. On ni.gov there used to be a page which had photo's showing what was allowed and what not allowed, and this clearly showed it to be wheels, but NI's laws are not always the same as rest of UK.
I've read online posts of people getting tickets for overhanging a bay, but this might be a over enthusiastic warden, as I know (having asked) that some councils at least only go by the wheels.
Myself as a preference will overhang a grass verge, never a pavement, if I have to overhang another bay, or even park over two bays and I'm not sure of the rules for that area I will phone if a number is available on any signage, some don't allow two tickets.
BTW a word of warning if going to Netherlands, they are very strict on parking, if it says 'carpark' it means cars only, they even police free carparks and even if the entire vehicle is inside a bay, if it's the wrong class of vehicle you get nicked.
 
colinmd said:
I did a fair bit of online research a few years back, at that time .gov had guidance for parking in England and Wales, and that didn't define if the whole vehicle or just the wheels needed to be inside a bay. On ni.gov there used to be a page which had photo's showing what was allowed and what not allowed, and this clearly showed it to be wheels, but NI's laws are not always the same as rest of UK.
I've read online posts of people getting tickets for overhanging a bay, but this might be a over enthusiastic warden, as I know (having asked) that some councils at least only go by the wheels.
Myself as a preference will overhang a grass verge, never a pavement, if I have to overhang another bay, or even park over two bays and I'm not sure of the rules for that area I will phone if a number is available on any signage, some don't allow two tickets.
BTW a word of warning if going to Netherlands, they are very strict on parking, if it says 'carpark' it means cars only, they even police free carparks and even if the entire vehicle is inside a bay, if it's the wrong class of vehicle you get nicked.
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I think the wheels inside the bay covers all of Britain . I have assumed that to be the case in Scotland , England and Wales . So far so good
 
alcam said:
Ticketed at 9.17 would imply offence occurred at 9.17 . The offence will be on the ticket . Don't pay , appeal
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I paid the £25 - just too many things to do at the moment to start writing and posting letters.... that's how they get you.

While I'm on the subject - whoever invented the parking machine that forces you to enter your number plate just to deprive you of giving your unused time to someone else should be shot.
 
colinmd said:
I did a fair bit of online research a few years back, at that time .gov had guidance for parking in England and Wales, and that didn't define if the whole vehicle or just the wheels needed to be inside a bay. On ni.gov there used to be a page which had photo's showing what was allowed and what not allowed, and this clearly showed it to be wheels, but NI's laws are not always the same as rest of UK.
I've read online posts of people getting tickets for overhanging a bay, but this might be a over enthusiastic warden, as I know (having asked) that some councils at least only go by the wheels.
Myself as a preference will overhang a grass verge, never a pavement, if I have to overhang another bay, or even park over two bays and I'm not sure of the rules for that area I will phone if a number is available on any signage, some don't allow two tickets.
BTW a word of warning if going to Netherlands, they are very strict on parking, if it says 'carpark' it means cars only, they even police free carparks and even if the entire vehicle is inside a bay, if it's the wrong class of vehicle you get nicked.
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So where do you wildcamp in Holland then?
 
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