How to lose a site

[sagart]

Traigh at Arisaig now has a very pointed notice about no overnighting and a reminder that there are several campsites in the immediate area.
Reason?
A VW.bay spent three nights there, It was noticed that he was discharging waste water straight onto the ground and a local crofter mentioned this to him as innapropriate.
Result?
A bucket appeared which was then regularly emptied on to the ground in a corner of the carpark when he thought no one was looking.
This was mentioned again, very politely and with no threats or abuse.
Next day the van vanished leaving the area decorated by bags of rubbish presumably stored over the three days and a heavy smell of emptied PortaPotti.
Can you wonder why this area is now banned?

 

[Deleted member 3270]

PITY THE REG WAS NOT SEEN

 

[Kontiki]

Though I tend to believe in live & let live, people like this should be named & shamed. Maybe a picture if possible & a rouges gallery of these campers who give us a bad name.

 

[caspar]

Hence my thread a while ago pleaing to everyone to clear up any mess (theirs or not) when wild camping. The tiny minority give the vast majority of responsible campers a bad name and then we all get grouped together!

 

[Canalsman]

I have removed this spot from the database

 

[Deleted member 2636]

Probably not the place to ask and I wouldn't want to be seen to take the post off course.
What is one supposed to do with waste "grey" water? Both the CC and the C&CC are now saying "throw it in the hedgerows". I have seen M/homes travelling down the road with just a trickle running from them and it is obvious what they are doing.
So what's the answer?

Please do not misunderstand me, I am not condoning this person's actions

 

[Tbear]

Probably not the place to ask and I wouldn't want to be seen to take the post off course.
What is one supposed to do with waste "grey" water? Both the CC and the C&CC are now saying "throw it in the hedgerows". I have seen M/homes travelling down the road with just a trickle running from them and it is obvious what they are doing.
So what's the answer?

Please do not misunderstand me, I am not condoning this person's actions

Its one thing to dump grey water at the base of a hedge in an out of the way spot so if it does have a cabbage water smell to it nobody is ever going to notice and at times in a dry summer it may do the hedge a lot of good. It's a very different matter to regularly dump waste of any type in the same spot in a public car park. The types that do should be banned from having a Mororhome

 

[Deleted member 967]

Probably not the place to ask and I wouldn't want to be seen to take the post off course.
What is one supposed to do with waste "grey" water? Both the CC and the C&CC are now saying "throw it in the hedgerows". I have seen M/homes travelling down the road with just a trickle running from them and it is obvious what they are doing.
So what's the answer?

Please do not misunderstand me, I am not condoning this person's actions

DEFRA guidance was to not dispose of waste water within 100 metres of a water course. A lot of hedges also have ditches.

Letting out waste water on the road could be classed as having an insecure load.

From the combined guidance for exempted clubs:

Chemical Toilets and Waste Water Disposal
20. Organisations will act responsibly when disposing of the contents of chemical toilets and waste water and take full account of the need to safeguard water supplies and prevent the pollution of rivers and streams.
21. On-site disposal of the contents of chemical toilets and waste water will be in accordance with arrangements agreed with the site owner/occupier. Neither will be allowed to foul the ground except at designated disposal points. If there is any doubt about the disposal of waste, the organisation or, if appropriate, the responsible person will contact the relevant Local Authority for advice.

And from the Caravan Code:

For touring other than on sites equipped with toilets, will carry his/her own sanitary equipment (usually chemical closet and approved related fluid) and dispose of the contents only at a point provided for the purpose. If burial is necessary, as perhaps on private property, this will not be done in the vicinity of any water course.

Allows no waste water from the caravan to foul the ground, ensures that suitable receptacles are connected to the waste water pipes to collect the waste, and the receptacles emptied as necessary. In the few instances where no disposal point is provided, minimum fouling is achieved by distributing the water over a considerable area, as along a hedge

So letting the water drain out of a pipe onto the ground does not meet this last object, although spreading it from a bucket over a wide area should.

I parked on this particular place in my Coach in the mid 1970s and it is beautiful. I was with a School Field Trip that was camping on the Traig Golf Course.

There is a CL very close and Google Earth shows a camping facility on the other side of the road.

John

 

[sagart]

I've a tap under my van which connects by a quick release to a length of flexible hose. This can then be run into a roadside drain where such exist. I spent 20 years in Torquay and often saw motorhomes, even on the seafront, simply disharging into the gutter...Cary Park was a favourite place as the high camber meant they could drain to the lowest level of a sloping tank. Not good for our image!
Up here it is harder, but many roadside ditches (like that next to my land) are used legitimately to carry filtered waste from septic tanks and Sepa are quite happy with this

 

[Deleted member 775]

i see no wrong in getting rid of washing water into the ground as long as is well away from a water course. if you can, just empty when you get home if only out for a night or two. as for any other waste then you must dispose of properly if i caught anyone dumping rubbish a quick on the photo on the mobile and a report to the authorities should do the trick

 

[sagart]

Fair point!
But in the case I originally quoted, the man was asked not to simply allow water to run from his waste to the ground in an area where families park to let their children play on the sands.