HHO as a fuel additive

Peisinoe

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Has anyone fitted a Hydrox system that produces Hydrogen gas into the engine. I am looking at a system for fuel saving like.
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HHO Kit HSL 3000

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Interested on any views as I can not see any recent Youtube comments.
 
I read something many years ago so things may have improved since. That the extra current needed to run it. Made the alternator and engine work harder so defeated the extra fuel economy gained.
 
Yes, its straightforward physics - energy cannot be created or destroyed. You need to put a certain amount of energy in to "split" water to hydrogen and oxygen. You get the same amount of energy back when you burn the hydrogen in your engine. Thus, the energy to generate the hydrogen has to come from the engine working harder to generate the electricity.

If you can use solar power to split the water then the using hydrogen in engines starts to make sense.

Keith
 
"Yes, its straightforward physics - energy cannot be created or destroyed. You need to put a certain amount of energy in to "split" water to hydrogen and oxygen. You get the same amount of energy back when you burn the hydrogen in your engine. Thus, the energy to generate the hydrogen has to come from the engine working harder to generate the electricity."
What you say is certainly true and I'm not suggesting that this product works but...
If this process increases the efficiency of the combustion process such that the amount of energy extracted from each litre of diesel is greater than before after any energy losses to produce the hydrogen, then this should result in an increase in mpg.
 
Yes, that's certainly a possibility. However, modern engines are designed to maximise economy on particular fuels so there would be little if any easy gains on efficiency of combustion. I would have thought that it would be just as likely that the result would be a disruption of efficiency.

Keith
 
Every time you convert there is a loss, so using electric from the engine to make gas is nonsense, but gas from a bottle/tank injected into airstream on a diesel at about 30% vol saves about 10% in fuel bills, some trucks have this but not in uk.
 
If you want to decrease your fuel useage.... Buy a smaller more fuel efficient vehicle,

The manufacturers have already spent a lot of development time and money to maximise fuel efficiency...
IF it was possible to improve on the figures by injecting some 'snake oil' in there.... I reckon they would already be doing it.
(as an integral system.... Not from an additional bottle carried)

You could always go down the 'running your car on water route' (disclaimer.... Don't try running your car on water ;-))

 
dunfillin said:
If this process increases the efficiency of the combustion process such that the amount of energy extracted from each litre of diesel is greater than before after any energy losses to produce the hydrogen, then this should result in an increase in mpg.
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Several years ago in NZ a reporter offered a large reward to anyone who would submit a vehicle for independent tests to confirm the improvements. Last I heard his money was safe.
 
The company I work for had been involved with testing a diesel rail engine with hydrogen for improved fuel consumption, though the results were promising the extra weight and space required for producing the hydrogen was an issue.
 
Correct a extra tank has to be fitted, it realy only comes into play for very long haul trucks like in USA or AUZ because of fitting charges, useless in uk.
 
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