Height barriers

mike v

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Hi, This is me thinking out loud , I was wondering if it could be possible to add
HEIGHT BARRIERS to the maps ,we seam to be getting so many going up these days , I'm sure this would help when looking for some where to park.
 
Height barriers

Are a real problem..

I am posting about simple parking (shopping or lunch stop or visiting a nature reserve or the like) without wishing to overnight !

In some cases I have had to reverse back out into a busy road having turned into a carpark only to discover a "Hidden Height Barrier"

Not expecting anything can be changed but....
 
jagmanx said:
Are a real problem..

I am posting about simple parking (shopping or lunch stop or visiting a nature reserve or the like) without wishing to overnight !

In some cases I have had to reverse back out into a busy road having turned into a carpark only to discover a "Hidden Height Barrier"

Not expecting anything can be changed but....
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Yes even some French and Spanish supermarkets have installed them
 
You have just pressed my button!!!!!
Since beginning campering 5 years ago I am convinced that hight barriers are on the increase, perhaps in relation to the up take of motor homing?
However it is getting ridiculous and last year I could not use Salisbury park and ride because of the hight barrier!!
I drove off in a huff from Kings Lynn for the same reason, all the large car parks had barriers.
The standard answer is "because of the travellers" but I wonder..........
 
What really annoys me is why they don't indicate on the parking signs when there is a barrier! Drove all round Maidstone once, seven ( I think) carparks later..gave up and went elsewhere!
 
For say Park & ride

Research
Normally/sometimes a town / city will have just 1 P&R suitable for motorhomes

Of course most of the time it will be 10 miles from the one that is best for you

Methinks DISCRIMINATION but as has been posted the standard response is "travellers" not an acceptable reply !

As has been said "Spend our money where we are welcome"
 
My VW T5 can limbo under height barriers. Just pop the top when under. I think Forestry Commission are going to be installing more. 😁
 
They are dangerous. I seen an ambulance hitting the one at Straiton retail park, not long after it was removed.
 
My first camper van was a 1972 VW Devon Moonraker, took it all over Europe in the summer of 1995. It had a fibreglass high top, a mate referred to it as a "Mr Whippy conversion". I used to drive it to the same supermarket every Friday night after work. :beer:

One Friday night I turned into the car park and at the last second noticed a newly installed height barrier. I slammed on the brakes, about a metre from turning my camper into a convertible.

No signs or warnings anywhere!

On principle I never shopped there again and to this day I don't hand over money to retailers who prevent me from using their car park.
 
Common answer seems to be "because of travellers" in response to barriers appearing everywhere. At risk of being contraversial, maybe instead of running scared, the councils/govt/police should pull their fingers out of their arses & do something to stop this problem. I am not anti traveller, or anti Irish, just anti criminal which is what a lot of these guys seem to be. They bring a bad name to themselves & ultimately anyone who chooses a travelling way of life is tarred with the same brush.
 
One tip to avoid height barriers at supermarkets is to look to see if there is a connection from the 'Deliveries' entrance to the CP, because the Artics have to get in. Some deliveries areas are cut off, but it is worth a try and has worked for us.

Otherwise I park on a quiet corner of the filling station area, e.g the 'parking for shoppers' at the filling station shop - you are shopping after all, albeit at the main shop.

Geoff
 
Nearly every car park in Portsmouth has a height barrier and I rant at any Councillor who gets close enough to me about it, but last week they left one open on the seafront and got a visit from the travelling community. Walking past at 6.30am one morning I saw a traffic warden standing guard on the entrance and they were there for the four days they stayed. So perhaps there is some reason in it.
 
As far as blaming hieght barriers on travellers, do you think a bar and padlock will stop them?
It wasn't much of a challenge at the park and rides around Oxford a couple of months ago.
 
antiquesam said:
Nearly every car park in Portsmouth has a height barrier and I rant at any Councillor who gets close enough to me about it, but last week they left one open on the seafront and got a visit from the travelling community. Walking past at 6.30am one morning I saw a traffic warden standing guard on the entrance and they were there for the four days they stayed. So perhaps there is some reason in it.
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Are you sure the council left it open, or was it opened by someone else?.... :mad2: Padlocked gates, height barriers, boulders Etc seem to get moved in the night and in the morning there's an encampment of travellers... Funny coincidence that.....:mad1:
 
Two things need to change, and I think it unlikely that either will.
Firstly the legal means of moving on trespassers on private land be they travellers or anyone else needs to be amended to make that removal easier and speedier, with compensation due to the landowners for their losses and inconvenience.
Secondly when motorhomes are parked overnight in a location their occupants need to stop annoying others by setting up camp outside their vehicles or leaving traces of their stay or creating disturbance such as running generators.
Until these things change height barriers will continue to increase.
 
2cv said:
Two things need to change, and I think it unlikely that either will.
Firstly the legal means of moving on trespassers on private land be they travellers or anyone else needs to be amended to make that removal easier and speedier, with compensation due to the landowners for their losses and inconvenience.
Secondly when motorhomes are parked overnight in a location their occupants need to stop annoying others by setting up camp outside their vehicles or leaving traces of their stay or creating disturbance such as running generators.
Until these things change height barriers will continue to increase.
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Who is going to compensate & from which pocket,travelers braking locks is clased as breaking & entering, but if you leave a gate open or dont have one then the problem falls to you requiring a court order,very costly to do and enforce.
Chap i knew had them move into a old house he was about to pull down to build new one for son,travelers called police when he tried to remove them,police arrived and told him there is nout he could do.
He ask sone to go fetch his s/gun and boxes of shells which son did,police went bonkers telling him if he used it against then he would end up in jail.
Well son arrived and dad loaded up his pump action and pumped shells into the roof until almost all slates were of ,when he walked of saying the rain will put them out so go and arrest GOD,they were gone next morning to which he put dozer to building,win win.
 
RoadTrek Boy said:
Are you sure the council left it open, or was it opened by someone else?.... :mad2: Padlocked gates, height barriers, boulders Etc seem to get moved in the night and in the morning there's an encampment of travellers... Funny coincidence that.....:mad1:
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No the people at the swimming pool left it open to allow workmen onto the site.
 
These barriers are on the increase in numbers, but with a walk I find I can usually find an alternative.
 
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Moonraker 2 said:
You have just pressed my button!!!!!
Since beginning campering 5 years ago I am convinced that hight barriers are on the increase, perhaps in relation to the up take of motor homing?
However it is getting ridiculous and last year I could not use Salisbury park and ride because of the hight barrier!!
I drove off in a huff from Kings Lynn for the same reason, all the large car parks had barriers.
The standard answer is "because of the travellers" but I wonder..........
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i went in to one, barrier laid on floor, cut in 3 bits, i saw 6 vans in corner,turn and left,not for me,ok.pj
 
oh no

trevskoda said:
Who is going to compensate & from which pocket,travelers braking locks is clased as breaking & entering, but if you leave a gate open or dont have one then the problem falls to you requiring a court order,very costly to do and enforce.
Chap i knew had them move into a old house he was about to pull down to build new one for son,travelers called police when he tried to remove them,police arrived and told him there is nout he could do.
He ask sone to go fetch his s/gun and boxes of shells which son did,police went bonkers telling him if he used it against then he would end up in jail.
Well son arrived and dad loaded up his pump action and pumped shells into the roof until almost all slates were of ,when he walked of saying the rain will put them out so go and arrest GOD,they were gone next morning to which he put dozer to building,win win.
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an encampment would not move,about a month,then some one mention dung, spreader arrived with pig muck,all hell br-oak out started at top one load they were gone,smelt de-vine, one load for another great,pj
 
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