Gas

[Deleted member 9215]

Hi guys I can't get my gas to work, I have changed the bottle and all the isolators seem to be open;-( any suggestions



Dunk

 

[vindiboy]

Probably a duff Regulator or less likely crushed or kinked pipes,

 

[vindiboy]

Is the bottle valve open ? easy mistake to make.

 

[AndyC]

Hi guys I can't get my gas to work, I have changed the bottle and all the isolators seem to be open;-( any suggestions

Dunk

Could be several things, if it's a relatively recent motorhome with a 30mB regulator fixed to the wall of your gas locker it might be that the regulator is blocked, particularly if it is fixed lower down than the top of the gas bottle.

If you can describe your setup it might help diagnose the problem. Some systems have a main isolator valve which can be manual or electric

If it was me, I'd be checking how far the gas was getting in the system by loosening the pipe connections one at a time, starting at the gas bottle connection - but I wouldn't advise anyone else to do that!

AndyC

 

[Polly]

Hia

I had this problem first time I had run out of gas


Next time
some of my technical support (friends) had said maybe regulator or gunged up pipes

a new regulator was bought and fitted and that was the end of my problem

The next prob with gas was when I was using my spanner to remove the gas bottle to change when I banged my little finger and it really did hurt.

so off I went to have my pipes replaced with the ones that screw onto the gas bottle with the use of my hand and no spanner required

now I have moved onto battery probs but I think I have sorted that now

 

[Deleted member 9215]

Could be several things, if it's a relatively recent motorhome with a 30mB regulator fixed to the wall of your gas locker it might be that the regulator is blocked, particularly if it is fixed lower down than the top of the gas bottle.

If you can describe your setup it might help diagnose the problem. Some systems have a main isolator valve which can be manual or electric

If it was me, I'd be checking how far the gas was getting in the system by loosening the pipe connections one at a time, starting at the gas bottle connection - but I wouldn't advise anyone else to do that!

AndyC

Hi andy

this is the type we have , the regulator is higher than the bottle in the middle of them I did change the bottle so some crap my
at have got in

dunk

 

[AndyC]

Hi andy

this is the type we have , the regulator is higher than the bottle in the middle of them I did change the bottle so some crap my
at have got in

dunk

It's said that the gunged up regulator problem is caused by plasticisers leaching out from flexible hoses (I'm not convinced myself) and that it shouldn't occur if the flexible connections run downhill from the regulator to the gas bottle. It's certainly worth checking whether gas is going through the regulator.

Do you have 2 gas bottles? If so, is there a changeover system, either manual or automatic, that might be causing problems?

AndyC

 

[Deleted member 9215]

Hi andy , I have change the bottle a couple of times if I can't get it to work I will take out the regulator when I get home and have a look at it

Cheers

dunk

 

[Deleted member 9215]

We did carry spares in the (tugger) but this one is built into the van so I can't change it.

Dunk

 

[Deleted member 9215]

Ours is also a bulkhead fitted type but I have also got a spare
Expensive I know but peace of mind

It's due it's habitation check next month so I will get one then
didn't know you coud get them

dunk

 

[Deleted member 9215]

We have only used it a couple of times and ont put water in it yet
we hoped to get out much more than we have but work seems to get in the way , this is why we decided to take the car to Italy this year and the van to Wales so we can get used to it before we go to Europe with it .


Dunk

 

[AndyC]

All of the Autogas dealers that I recently contacted told me that in their opinion it was a myth and rubber hoses are good enough and no need to spend more on the stainless hoses.
They told me that it was poor gas supplied in the UK

That's what I think too - having seen the same thing in boat gas systems.

The amount of 'gunk' in some systems I've seen would have rendered the flexible hoses dangerously brittle if it was the plasticiser that was being leached.

AndyC

 

[vwalan]

it seems a shame the rules changed .it was always easy to change a bottle top reg. becarefull you may have an habitation check lots do it but not many can check the gas very few have a certificate to do motor homes .certainly a corgi cant or couldnt and even having lpg on a gas safe doesnt cover m,homes .it is possible to get one but be warned .
i think the trouble is poor new regulators . you definately dont have the same trouble with the old ones and they use the same hoses.
strangely i have friends who work in the hydrolic industry and alot of theuir nylon stainless hose isnt supposed to be used on gas .it holds incredible pressures takes all kinds of fluids but the makers say not for lpg. it does work succesfully we found shhhhh. i use the old reg system much better.

 

[AndyC]

it seems a shame the rules changed .it was always easy to change a bottle top reg. becarefull you may have an habitation check lots do it but not many can check the gas very few have a certificate to do motor homes .certainly a corgi cant or couldnt and even having lpg on a gas safe doesnt cover m,homes .it is possible to get one but be warned .
i think the trouble is poor new regulators . you definately dont have the same trouble with the old ones and they use the same hoses.
strangely i have friends who work in the hydrolic industry and alot of theuir nylon stainless hose isnt supposed to be used on gas .it holds incredible pressures takes all kinds of fluids but the makers say not for lpg. it does work succesfully we found shhhhh. i use the old reg system much better.

Yes, we never (or at least very rarely) had any problems with the regulators on the boats. What we found was that the oily muck in the gas was going straight through the reg and collecting in the copper pipe where there was a dip in it. Sometimes enough in it to block the pipe completely.

Incidentally, boats still use the 37mB propane regulators...

AndyC

 

[Deleted member 9215]

And here's me thinking the new ones would be better.

Dunk

 

[lebesset]

I have used the on board regulators for almost 20 years , only with rubber hoses , and never had the slightest problem

mind you , I don't buy gas in the uk except on the rarest of occasions

and these regulators [ like water pumps] are freely available from one end of europe to the other , no need to carry them

 

[Deleted member 9215]

Hi guys , spoke to a local dealer today and he recons you are right about the regulator not being high enough or the pipe ( he recons he can fix it so it won't happen again) & habitation check for £110 pretty good I thought.


Dunk

thanks for all the replys

 

[vwalan]

could be worth asking how muchgas it will allow through .there are a few different ones .i was looking in a catalogue the other day and thought mmmmm i wonder .