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[izwozral]

Noticed one or two issues with the MH whilst away last. It went into limp mode in 4th gear when accelerated fast, over revved in 5th gear when accelerated up hill before engaging and clutch seems at it's highest limit before engaging.

My guess is that the clutch is knackered so need a new one, or transmission oil has got into it, or I'm talking out of my backside.

New clutch about a grand fitted? Maybe?

It's a Fiat Ducato 2.8 diesel, 05 reg, about 38k on the clock.

 

[r4dent]

Sounds like clutch problem.

First (and easiest) is check clutch fluid level

Next thing is to get on a Ducato group and ask them.

 

[trevskoda]

38th on a clutch. I easy get almost 200.000 miles on them in cars, either a fault or bad driving tec, yes moderen kennetic clutch/flywheel are are easy £1200.

 

[Tezza33]

A full clutch kit costs less than £150 for that model Ral, LUK kit is £ 111,65 from AutoDoc, add on P&P and 'safe' delivery £3.95 (covers you for free returns)
Ridex is only £91 but LUK is better quality, Valeo costs £ 132,35, find a local recommended garage and you are not looking at stupid prices
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[izwozral]

That is exactly what I'm looking for Terry. Cheers mate. I may even send you that Xmas present I promised to send you last year and the year before that.....

 

[Tezza33]

If you buy from AutoDoc download the app, the price drops a few quid and if you down load the app from a referral you get £10 off your first order over £45, they are a big company with excellent communication, I ordered the wrong caliper and after an email to them I was sent pdf's to print out a free return to Germany, customs papers and full instructions, three days later I received the correct caliper, parts are sent from their UK branch.
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[RichardHelen262]

Be careful ordering your own parts, unless you are going to fit them yourself.
As a lot of garages won’t fit customers parts, and if they do and anything goes wrong ,then you will have to pay for their labour again.
where as if the garage supplies and fits the parts then it is down to them,should the parts fail prematurely.
Also if the parts are incorrect the garage won’t want your motorhome taking up a large part of their premises whilst you get the parts swapped for the correct ones.

 

[colinm]

Be careful ordering your own parts, unless you are going to fit them yourself.
As a lot of garages won’t fit customers parts, and if they do and anything goes wrong ,then you will have to pay for their labour again.
where as if the garage supplies and fits the parts then it is down to them,should the parts fail prematurely.
Also if the parts are incorrect the garage won’t want your motorhome taking up a large part of their premises whilst you get the parts swapped for the correct ones.

Slight aside, you've reminded me of an incident we had.
We had been restoring an aircraft for a customer, he decided that the estimate we gave for repairs to the tailplane where too high, so he purchased another tailplane which had been restored and had full paperwork, "just needed final painting and fitting". We painted the tailplane, but when it was being fitted it was noticed something wasn't right, on inspection it was found the spar was cracked, the customer blamed us, but when it was stripped down it could be seen that the base paint(undercoat if you like) had seeped into the crack proving it was an old problem. The customer accepted it had been in that condition when he handed it over, but insisted it was our shout to fix it as we should have noticed the problem before painting it.

 

[JQB]

Slight aside, you've reminded me of an incident we had.
We had been restoring an aircraft for a customer, he decided that the estimate we gave for repairs to the tailplane where too high, so he purchased another tailplane which had been restored and had full paperwork, "just needed final painting and fitting". We painted the tailplane, but when it was being fitted it was noticed something wasn't right, on inspection it was found the spar was cracked, the customer blamed us, but when it was stripped down it could be seen that the base paint(undercoat if you like) had seeped into the crack proving it was an old problem. The customer accepted it had been in that condition when he handed it over, but insisted it was our shout to fix it as we should have noticed the problem before painting it.

Joe public!

 

[JQB]

Noticed one or two issues with the MH whilst away last. It went into limp mode in 4th gear when accelerated fast, over revved in 5th gear when accelerated up hill before engaging and clutch seems at it's highest limit before engaging.

My guess is that the clutch is knackered so need a new one, or transmission oil has got into it, or I'm talking out of my backside.

New clutch about a grand fitted? Maybe?

It's a Fiat Ducato 2.8 diesel, 05 reg, about 38k on the clock.

Clutch slip. Sold hundreds of LuK clutches for self fit over the years, not for ducato though, never ever any complaints.

 

[RichardHelen262]

Clutch slip. Sold hundreds of LuK clutches for self fit over the years, not for ducato though, never ever any complaints.

I don’t think Ral will be fitting it himself, as he only owns an hammer, and is pretty lethal with it

 

[Pudsey Bear]

I've fitted a few clutches on RWD cars/vans over the years, easy job tbh, but front wheel drive is a PITA so only ever did the one on my old Honda Civic.

 

[izwozral]

I don’t think Ral will be fitting it himself, as he only owns an hammer, and is pretty lethal with it

What else do you need? Smacking the shite out of gas, electrics, plumbing, glazing etc has always worked for me.
Sometimes costly though but what the hell.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

You have two choices growing up that will affect all your life.

A, get a good job so you can pay others to do stuff for you.

B, figure it out so you can fix it yourself.

Or

C, try to fix it yourself, feck it up, then pay others to fix it the right way.

 

[colinm]

I've fitted a few clutches on RWD cars/vans over the years, easy job tbh, but front wheel drive is a PITA so only ever did the one on my old Honda Civic.

Easiest clutch I've ever changed was on a FWD Cavalier, didn't even have to remove the gearbox. Remove plug from end of gearbox, with 7mm stud withdraw shaft, remove cover from bottom of bellhousing, unbolt clutch cover (turning over engine as required to get to bolts, slide out clutch, and reverse sequence to replace.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

Nowadays all I do is check the oil, water and screen wash, gone are the days of half a day under the bonnet

 

[RichardHelen262]

Easiest clutch I've ever changed was on a FWD Cavalier, didn't even have to remove the gearbox. Remove plug from end of gearbox, with 7mm stud withdraw shaft, remove cover from bottom of bellhousing, unbolt clutch cover (turning over engine as required to get to bolts, slide out clutch, and reverse sequence to replace.

That was a great idea from Vauxhall, but they didn’t carry it for long, I think the workshop time was only 30 mins,
After doing a couple you could change the clutch in 15 mins.
Although I do know of a guy that took 2 days, is face was a picture when I explained to him how he should have done it,

 

[trevskoda]

Easiest clutch I've ever changed was on a FWD Cavalier, didn't even have to remove the gearbox. Remove plug from end of gearbox, with 7mm stud withdraw shaft, remove cover from bottom of bellhousing, unbolt clutch cover (turning over engine as required to get to bolts, slide out clutch, and reverse sequence to replace.

Old Datsun 100A were the same, 20 mins and on the road again.

 

[n brown]

That was a great idea from Vauxhall, but they didn’t carry it for long, I think the workshop time was only 30 mins,
After doing a couple you could change the clutch in 15 mins.
Although I do know of a guy that took 2 days, is face was a picture when I explained to him how he should have done it,

easiest clutch was on a maxi
hardest was a Cortina which i did on a muddy track in the rain . finally dropped the silly little 1 1/2 ton jack , and half hidden under a tuft of grass -, i spotted -- the thrust bearing !

 

[caledonia]

Easiest clutch I've ever changed was on a FWD Cavalier, didn't even have to remove the gearbox. Remove plug from end of gearbox, with 7mm stud withdraw shaft, remove cover from bottom of bellhousing, unbolt clutch cover (turning over engine as required to get to bolts, slide out clutch, and reverse sequence to replace.

You need the 3 clips to put on the cover plate to keep it compressed or you won’t get it out.