Engine queries

[campervanannie]

So I recently bought a Adria Twin on a Fiat Ducato 2.3 trying to find out when the timing belt was last done spoke to the dealer to ask if it was done when he put a years mot on it he tells me it doesn’t need one as it has a ford engine in it and that has a chain not a belt is there a way of checking this.
My Rapido was on Fiat 2.8 but had a be engine in it.

 

[mark61]

Don't know how reliable the wikipedia page is, but if I'm reading it right only the Citroen and Peugeot had Ford engines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Ducato

Reading it wrong, some did have Ford engine, but 2.2, not 2.3.

 

[RichardHelen262]

What year is it as the earlier ones of the newer shape did have transit engines in them.
Easiest way is to go onto euro car parts, ( ecp) website and put your reg number in then search for timing belt

 

[campervanannie]

What year is it as the earlier ones of the newer shape did have transit engines in them.
Easiest way is to go onto euro car parts, ( ecp) website and put your reg number in then search for timing belt

It’s 2009

 

[RichardHelen262]

If it is the 2.3 then it looks like this fits

 

[campervanannie]

Don't know how reliable the wikipedia page is, but if I'm reading it right only the Citroen and Peugeot had Ford engines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Ducato

Reading it wrong, some did have Ford engine, but 2.2, not 2.3.

When I put my reg in any search engine it comes up as 2.2 not 2.3

 

[campervanannie]

Don't know how reliable the wikipedia page is, but if I'm reading it right only the Citroen and Peugeot had Ford engines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Ducato

Reading it wrong, some did have Ford engine, but 2.2, not 2.3.

It seams it’s a 2.2 my mistake so looks like it is a ford engine with a chain not a belt

 

[mariesnowgoose]

Probably a very daft question, but any way you can physically see the actual timing belt/chain in the engine compartment?

 

[caledonia]

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Probably a very daft question, but any way you can physically see the actual timing belt/chain in the engine compartment?

No. A belt will be behind a plastic cover and a chain will be behind the timing case inside the engine as it requires lubrication

 

[RichardHelen262]

Probably a very daft question, but any way you can physically see the actual timing belt/chain in the engine compartment?

Any motor mechanic will tell you in seconds by having a quick look in the engine bay

 

[caledonia]

If it’s the Ford engine they had issues with timing chains and oil pumps. I think they were recalled for a modification to prevent this from happening. Worth trying to find out if it has had any recalls
Don’t want to be doom and gloom but worth checking out the history at a Fiat dealership.

 

[mistericeman]

If it’s the Ford engine they had issues with timing chains and oil pumps. I think they were recalled for a modification to prevent this from happening. Worth trying to find out if it has had any recalls
Don’t want to be doom and gloom but worth checking out the history at a Fiat dealership.

This is handy for recall checks

Check if a vehicle, part or accessory has been recalled

Check if a vehicle model, part or accessory has been recalled because of a fault in how it was made

www.gov.uk

 

[campervanannie]

 

[RichardHelen262]

If it’s the Ford engine they had issues with timing chains and oil pumps. I think they were recalled for a modification to prevent this from happening. Worth trying to find out if it has had any recalls
Don’t want to be doom and gloom but worth checking out the history at a Fiat dealership.

You are correct the ford engine did have issues with the oil pump and recalled the transit to fit a upgraded oil pump.
But I believe Peugeot, Citroen and Fiat didn’t as it was going to cost them too much

 

[shortcircuit]

Have a look at the oil filter housing. If it has a Ford logo embosedn, then its Ford. My Stargazer has a 2.2 lt engine and have had no problems.

 

[caledonia]

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If you go to a fiat garage they can enter your reg in their system and it will show all the visits to the garage and what work was carried out.

 

[caledonia]

Have a look at the oil filter housing. If it has a Ford logo embosedn, then its Ford. My Stargazer has a 2.2 lt engine and have had no problems.

The majority were fine but some weren’t. We had 4 transit flat beds at work and one went pop under 10k. The rest were fine and recalled if my goldfish memory serves me correct.

 

[TJBi]

What year is it as the earlier ones of the newer shape did have transit engines in them.
Easiest way is to go onto euro car parts, ( ecp) website and put your reg number in then search for timing belt

That solution doesn't work for me, as it just tells me that my registration number is invalid and to enter a valid one. Similar messages over the years from other parts companies, including Halfords. Apparently, it's a frequent issue with motorhomes. What is really annoying is when you know exactly what part you require but the company insists on a registration number before it will even tell you whether it has it available.

 

[RichardHelen262]

That solution doesn't work for me, as it just tells me that my registration number is invalid and to enter a valid one. Similar messages over the years from other parts companies, including Halfords. Apparently, it's a frequent issue with motorhomes. What is really annoying is when you know exactly what part you require but the company insists on a registration number before it will even tell you whether it has it available.

I haven’t had that problem with motor factors, but because I have put my own number plate on, Mercedes can’t find it even when I give them the chassis number

 

[mikejay]

I find autodoc to be good at recognizing reg numbers this is for campervanannies reg shows a chain on the parts lists.

Mike