Cooking Oil Fuel

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Hi Gang,
Let's talk Cooking Oil as fuel for a 1996 2.5TD.
Now then, I have just stopped for a Coffee n Donut in a Layby on my way to Kent, Lots of Lorries parked. All the Drivers Chatting. One guy wandered over and was looking at The Nest with interest, So I engaged in conversation.
Half Hour Later a Guy turned up in a Decent Van towing a trailer FULL of 20lt containers of 'This Fuel' for the Lorry Driver.
Now, He obviously supplied it as a Business & I chatted to the Fuel supply Guy (Got his Business Card) seems Cosha, & I presume a quality product as he was telling me some of the Fiter processes &
chemicals he added etc.it turns out it's 0.75p per lt Diliverd or 0.70p per lt if you pick it up (Luton).
What are the thoughts from fellow Members on this.

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I must say it doesn't look very clear, but it's been Double filterd to 1micron & the Fats content are ok (Apparently !). To be fair, I can't see that self employed Lorry Drivers would use it & be repeat customers buying £100s of pounds worth at a time if it wasn't any good.
 
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I had an811 merc 1990 and used to buy it from a friend of a friend apart from the smell and white smoke on start up which soon went it ran fine, I also used it in my old Peugeot , don't think the newer engines run as well on it.
 
The test would be to let it settle a bit and then see the fat/sediment at the bottom of the container.From an unknown source I wouldn,t touch it.Lots of stories of damaged injector pumps,seals damaged etc.May well be genuine bio-diesel but it should be clear.I,d do some checks on your make/model of injector pump before contemplating using it.
I have in the past used filtered wvo which was done by myself after much filtering using 50/50 in a 1994 1.9 td ducatto but I did some checks beforehand,cerainly would not use it on a common rail engine.Although I believe supermarket diesel contains 7% bio diesel.
 
How interesting !
Thanks guys,
He DID say if possible & in an ideal world it's best to let it stand, & treat it as If you was Decanting a Demijohn of Home Made wine.& in Winter or colder temperatures mix with 30% Diesel .

I've got a 1996 Peugeot Boxer 2.5 TD as my Base vehicle, So I guess it should be ok to use !.
The thing Is, I could order 100lt now (as almost completely Dry, & Delivery Friday), then 100lt on my way back from doing my Kent, Eastbourne, Littlehampton ring, then meet up at Peaspottage
(another regular drop he does). Then mess about going West from there for a bit, before heading North again & get another 100lt in say Milton Keynes !. 300lt for £225 giving 2 months (ish) motoring possibly saving £125 ish PLUS giving me a FULL tank with say 60 lt in 3 containers to top up as I head further North, Well THAT'S getting to Scotland sorted !. I can see the attraction, but I suppose it only works if you stay local & have regular supply.
 
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A lot down to the pump and some hose rot with it and you need to put extra filter in line just in case and have heard of adding petrol in smallquantitys to it in the winter as it gums u p
 
It was popular with the T4 crowd running the old 2.4D (a normally aspirated IDI engine). However, they were getting the pumps rebuilt first (presumably issues with o-rings degrading).

Regular fuel filter changes were required, but that is not a great expense.
 
in the wintere it turns to sludge in your tank and blocks the filters it is also very prone to diesel bug. Tried it once for a few months but repeatedly breaking down with blocked filters soon put me off, however I also know of people who have run on it for years. Once it became legal the price of raw oil shot up and it was no longer viable.
 
I have run both my 4x4 Mitsubishi 3.2 and MH transit 2.8 for years and years. Down to -18, cost between 15ppl to 45ppl, mine is like liquid sunshine and better than fossil fuel filtered down to 0 microns and NO TAX= no-brainer.
On the more cautious side, I have known people who have destroyed their engines, set fire to themselves and their sheds, blown themselves up, and some who have never managed to get their heads around the process, so be warned.
:scared:
 
Hi ya,
Yeah I see you only make it for yourself, So I can totally understand how economic it is for you to use, & Fair play to you.
So is here any Engine mods or worries you would suggest doing in order to run mine on this stuff.
Shame I haven't got a steady supply, Fuel is by far my biggest expense, (My second is Donuts !)
 
I think that the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
If it was a really good thing we would all be piling in and doing it.... And they would have found a way to tax it, by now.
My 2011 Renault Trafic hand book says not to use bio diesel.
 
McDonalds recycle their cooking oil to power their delivery trucks and they're not old vehicles ;)

Regards,
Del
 
Nesting Zombie said:
Hi Gang,
Let's talk Cooking Oil as fuel for a 1996 2.5TD.
Now then, I have just stopped for a Coffee n Donut in a Layby on my way to Kent, Lots of Lorries parked. All the Drivers Chatting. One guy wandered over and was looking at The Nest with interest, So I engaged in conversation.
Half Hour Later a Guy turned up in a Decent Van towing a trailer FULL of 20lt containers of 'This Fuel' for the Lorry Driver.
Now, He obviously supplied it as a Business & I chatted to the Fuel supply Guy (Got his Business Card) seems Cosha, & I presume a quality product as he was telling me some of the Fiter processes &
chemicals he added etc.it turns out it's 0.75p per lt Diliverd or 0.70p per lt if you pick it up (Luton).
What are the thoughts from fellow Members on this.

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I must say it doesn't look very clear, but it's been Double filterd to 1micron & the Fats content are ok (Apparently !). To be fair, I can't see that self employed Lorry Drivers would use it & be repeat customers buying £100s of pounds worth at a time if it wasn't any good.
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I used cooking oil in my 92 Pajero for a few months using it 50 /50 with normal Diesel. After a while it went gutless and bad to start. I changed the diesel filter and found it was full of crap. So I put a new filter on it and started using cooking oil exclusively. 3 years later it was still running better than ever, and the disel filter after 3 years use was spotless when I next changed it.Normal diesel coats the inside of your fuel system (tank, pipes, pump etc) with a varnish, and this sits there and builds up over time. If your cooking oil is mixed properly with Ethanol, I believe, The varnish will be dissolved and end up in your filter. If you run on just the "Biofuel" the varnish effect will not be evident again, but mixing with normal fuel seemed to cause a few issues. On a technical note, the calorific value of biofuel is lower than proper diesel, so mpg will be slightly lower, but still better for your pocket, and the environment too if that's your bag!
Hope that helps buddy:goodluck::hammer::idea-007:
 
Pauljenny said:
I think that the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
If it was a really good thing we would all be piling in and doing it.... And they would have found a way to tax it, by now.
My 2011 Renault Trafic hand book says not to use bio diesel.
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They have found a way. My regular supplier had to stop producing because the tax the man levied on it made it more expensive than diesel! Apparently you can still make a certain amount tax free each year for personal use. Not sure of quantity think it might be 1000 litres but don't quote me...:idea-007::drive: Plus it makes your exaust smell likechips.... which can only be a good thing! lol
STAY SAFE & KEEP ON KEEPING ON :banana::cool1::wave::banana::cool1::wave::cheers:
 
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I have run both my 4x4 Mitsubishi 3.2 and MH transit 2.8 for years and years. Down to -18, cost between 15ppl to 45ppl, mine is like liquid sunshine and better than fossil fuel filtered down to 0 microns and NO TAX= no-brainer.
On the more cautious side, I have known people who have destroyed their engines, set fire to themselves and their sheds, blown themselves up, and some who have never managed to get their heads around the process, so be warned.
:scared:
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Glad you mentioned the pitfalls matey I forgot to do that on my earlier post! Know a couple of people with trashed engines due to this. One was the guy who supplied the ethanol to a couple of producers round our way. He was low on fuel so bought half a tankful from one of his customers. Never even got back to his depot! AS you say, good savings to be had sometimes, but beware!:idea-007::hammer::hammer::hammer::hammer::hammer:
 
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